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Socialised medicine failure

Socialism always ends in failure. There is no incentive for quality.

 

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Health Care: Angry over pay and working conditions, British doctors are threatening to go on strike next week. This is the sort of disaster that can happen only when physicians are government employees.

As many as 37,000 "junior doctors, or doctors in training who represent just over half of all doctors in the National Health Service," Reuters reports, have said "they would stage a 24-hour stoppage next week, followed by two further 48-hour strikes."

A walkout of disgruntled doctors, the first in Great Britain since 1975, would affect nonemergency care and cause surgeries to be canceled, leaving many Brits, who rely on government health care, to go untreated.

Of course, going without treatment is already part of the British health care experience. The National Health Service is a broken system in need of an overhaul. It can't continue as is.

The threatened strike is one of many signs that foundational change is needed, but doctor dissatisfaction is not new to the National Health Service. Britain's resource-challenged socialized medicine has been chasing away doctors for years.

A little more than three years ago, the Financial Times reported, "(The) National Health Service is suffering a 'brain drain' of doctors as more medics trained at taxpayers' expense choose to pursue their careers overseas."

From 2008 to 2012, more than 8,000 doctors left Britain. The Financial Times said that they had grown tired of working "extensive 'goodwill hours' and coming in on days off." Younger doctors were feeling they had been "abused by the long hours" they put in.

Actually, the physician flight is almost as old as the system itself. A 1964 study, "British Doctors at Home and Abroad," found that as soon as the early 1950s, less than a decade after the NHS was established in a postwar socialism binge, physicians were quitting for nations where they could earn higher salaries and take on a "wider field of work."

And it continues today. In September, the Express reported, "Junior doctors across Britain are queuing up to work abroad after the government announced draconian plans to change their contracts."

As a result of the doctor brain drain, Britain has been left little choice but to import foreign doctors to fill the gaps. The Daily Mail says that 35.4% of all British doctors were born outside the U.K. Only Luxembourg has a higher rate of foreign-born doctors in the European Union.

It's not just the job that's causing doctors to look for a way out, either. Britain's health care professionals have also become disillusioned by the government's poor standard of care. (Let's be blunt: Part of the problem is the lower quality of treatment provided by the Third World doctors the system has had to recruit.)

Conditions have become so deficient that, the Daily Mail reported in 2013, 37% of Britain's National Health Service workers — doctors, nurses, paramedics — told a survey that they would not recommend their own workplace to friends or family who need care.



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Re: Socialised medicine failure

By many metrics BristishNHS is the best system in the world.

 

Medicine is, by defintion, a socialist endeavor, regardless what the tight group of prep school porcine fornicators who rule Britain and thier retainers might suggest.

 

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Re: Socialised medicine failure


@hardnox wrote:

By many metrics BristishNHS is the best system in the world.

 

Medicine is, by defintion, a socialist endeavor, regardless what the tight group of prep school porcine fornicators who rule Britain and thier retainers might suggest.

 


And by more metrics they aren't.

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True failure

The old time doctors used to have to ride to someone's house after being summoned in the middle of the night, do what they had to do and maybe get paid in chickens and eggs, occasionally cash. Yet there were doctors and then there were more.

 

If you have a problem with our healthcare system, ask your congressmen to quit being paid off by the healthcare and pharmacy industry and make the changes we need. Your party has done zero....squat...no legislation at all except to try and cut the AHA and that has failed miserably. The Democrate will do nothing either because they are paid off as well. They are all on the take and you know it.

 

The only real answer is a single payer system and that will never happen as long as every congressman is paid off by the very industry they are suppose to make better. You keep asking them for a recall, but your call goes without an answer and you do know why whether you will admit it or not. I just told you why.

 

You know this, don't you? Why have you heard of no bills to make the changes you want?  Just a bunch of recall talk that will never, ever happen.

 

You can keep your congressman if you want!!!!

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Re: True failure


@KNAPPer wrote:

The old time doctors used to have to ride to someone's house after being summoned in the middle of the night, do what they had to do and maybe get paid in chickens and eggs, occasionally cash. Yet there were doctors and then there were more.

 

If you have a problem with our healthcare system, ask your congressmen to quit being paid off by the healthcare and pharmacy industry and make the changes we need. Your party has done zero....squat...no legislation at all except to try and cut the AHA and that has failed miserably. The Democrate will do nothing either because they are paid off as well. They are all on the take and you know it.

 

The only real answer is a single payer system and that will never happen as long as every congressman is paid off by the very industry they are suppose to make better. You keep asking them for a recall, but your call goes without an answer and you do know why whether you will admit it or not. I just told you why.

 

You know this, don't you? Why have you heard of no bills to make the changes you want?  Just a bunch of recall talk that will never, ever happen.

 

You can keep your congressman if you want!!!!


Single payer is a disaster. VA is proof. You die waiting to get onto a waiting list. Then the people who run the system receive huge bonuses. Talk about a payoff. Brit care is the VA times ten. Exactly where we will end up.

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Re: True failure

Have you been to England to try their health care or do you just know it???

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Re: True failure

Don't be too hard on them Bart. They're just saying what they have been told to say. They only hear horror stories and they are scared people to begin with. You need to remember they have been instructed what to thiink and are incapable of informed decisions. They can't see that the rest of the world has great health care and we could have super health care.

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Re: True failure


@KNAPPer wrote:

Don't be too hard on them Bart. They're just saying what they have been told to say. They only hear horror stories and they are scared people to begin with. You need to remember they have been instructed what to thiink and are incapable of informed decisions. They can't see that the rest of the world has great health care and we could have super health care.


And Bruce Jenner is a girl.

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Re: Socialised medicine failure

http://www.politico.eu/article/david-camerons-politically-unhealthy-fight-over-the-nhs-strikes-restr...

 

Actually in this case more like public education- Oinky cut it to the bone to declare it failed with intention to distribute the pieces to henchmen.

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Re: True failure

Why does that bother you so much?? You think she is now getting something you don't get?  If you feel that strongly about it, you can do it also and then you will be even.