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Solyndra x 4

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Re: Solyndra x 4

Careful, you're getting pretty close to hime there.

 

Mostly cellulosic ethanol, which was a necessary fable to sell the grain ethanol program.

 

Might be some good People behind that.

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Grain ethanol works, maybe some day it will stand on it 's own two feet.  Cellulosic is a prime example of government waste.

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Read what nox said a couple more times.  There would be no corn ethanol without the sell on the other. It was a masterful effort,standing up for the environment AND the Grant Wood, chickens in the yard, sheep in the meadow, cows in the corn set.

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@bruce MN wrote:

Read what nox said a couple more times.  There would be no corn ethanol without the sell on the other. It was a masterful effort,standing up for the environment AND the Grant Wood, chickens in the yard, sheep in the meadow, cows in the corn set.


 

 

Another example of government failure.

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Extreme reactionaries bear no responsiblity for anything that is wrong today.

 

Because they alone are the people wha are linked up to some mythical halcyon past.

 

Of course there is some considerable amount of that romantic primitivism among liberals as well, particularly of the environmental stripe.

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Failed top down driven extortion and palm greasing fascism.  Nothing either classic conservative or progressive.  The entire biofuels industry is arbitrarily contrived. No different than the pork and poultry industries. Might be some long term good.  Might even be the ultimate answer to the long term energy needs of the planet.  

 

But  if left to the market and conventional  financing there would never have been the first drop, as there would never have been the first road to haul the stock in on.

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Iowa- the Bleeding Heartland blog seems aptly titled.

 

The conversation in Iowa over the drection of the hog industry- as much social as environmental/zoning, was interesting to watch unfold in the later 80s and 90s. In the end they went for the neoliberal model because like most everybody else in most every other objective, if they didn's somebody else was going to hit the least common denomnator and get it anyway.

 

There's also a simultaneous conversation going on over in Marketing about nutrient runoff regulation on cropland and sort of the same applies- if multi-thousand acre farmers are in any way limited in the type, timing and convenience of N applications then they're going to hold their breaths until they turn blue, everyone will starve and the world will come to an end.

 

So in Iowa you now have a hog integrator/thanol Palinite mogul as chair of the board of regents where he is going to root out all opposition to that and associated projects.

 

Sad.

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@hardnox wrote:

Iowa- the Bleeding Heartland blog seems aptly titled.

 

The conversation in Iowa over the drection of the hog industry- as much social as environmental/zoning, was interesting to watch unfold in the later 80s and 90s. In the end they went for the neoliberal model because like most everybody else in most every other objective, if they didn's somebody else was going to hit the least common denomnator and get it anyway.

 

There's also a simultaneous conversation going on over in Marketing about nutrient runoff regulation on cropland and sort of the same applies- if multi-thousand acre farmers are in any way limited in the type, timing and convenience of N applications then they're going to hold their breaths until they turn blue, everyone will starve and the world will come to an end.

 

So in Iowa you now have a hog integrator/thanol Palinite mogul as chair of the board of regents where he is going to root out all opposition to that and associated projects.

 

Sad.


Bullcrap. The water is as clean as it ever has been. Grass buffers are in place and no-till has resulted in way less silt in streams. But, like most liberal bogeymen, facts won't get in the way of political indignation. 

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@bruce MN wrote:

Failed top down driven extortion and palm greasing fascism.  


So why would you believe the government would be any better at health care?