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sam1wiseone
Senior Contributor

Taibbi joining

Greenwald and Kunstler on the hated former sage list.

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/congratulations-elitists-liberals

Karl’s statement was meant to be profound and bold, but it’s actually a damning admission of incompetence on the part of a press corps that spent years turning hundreds of non-Trump questions into referenda on Trump. Does hydroxychloroquine work? Is it a good idea to have Russian and American troops sitting in each other’s laps in Syria? Did Barack Obama’s FBI send “spies” into the Trump campaign?

The desperation to say “no” on the latter question just because Trump was saying “yes” led to all-time absurd headlines like, “F.B.I. Used Informant to Investigate Russia Ties to Campaign, Not to Spy, as Trump Claims.” As for Karl’s point about Covid-19, if reporters were afraid to go near an urgent science story for fear an untoward revelation might give secondary comfort to Trump, what does that say about how they might have covered a dozen other issues more directly related to the last president, from impeachment to the “insurrection” to Russiagate and beyond?

The consistent pattern with the Trump-era press, which also happens to be the subject of so many of those Greenwald stories the Beast and the Intercept employees are complaining about, is that information that is true but doesn’t cut the right way politically is now routinely either non-reported or actively misreported.

Whether it’s Hunter Biden’s laptop or the Brian Sicknick affair or infamous fictions like the “find the fraud” story, the public increasingly now isn’t getting the right information from the bulk of the commercial press corps. That doesn’t just hurt Trump and conservatives, it misinforms the whole public. As Thomas Frank just pointed out in The Guardian, the brand of politicized reporting that informed the lab-leak fiasco risks obliterating the public’s faith in a whole range of institutions, a disaster that would not be borne by conservatives alone.

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bruce MN
Advisor

Re: Taibbi joining

Not sure we ever see anything through a similar lens, or have even close to similar takeaways,  but FWIW that is very, very good.

Matt one of the really good ones. Always has been. Thinking 2009 and the Squid thingee.

sdholloway56
Senior Advisor

Re: Taibbi joining

Do 35k lies not present some challenge to the fourth estate?

Particularly when a very well financed minor wing distributes and amplifies them?

When you get a psycho POTUS blowing lie after lie out his pie hole there will be disorientation of the sort you and other nihilistic terrorists seek to exploit.

sam1wiseone
Senior Contributor

Re: Taibbi joining

Bet one of those lies you are counting was that Obama admin spied on his campaign.

Certainly another was that the plague likely had a lab origin.

You havent learned a damn thing.

rickgthf
Senior Advisor

Re: There's a big difference between ...

   Believe it or not there's big difference between trump saying, "Chyna, Chyna, Chyna did it" and Biden wanting a full accounting of the origin of  Sars2.

    Trump was trying to blame China for his own abject failure to protect Americans from the Pandemic.  Remember him saying, " it's just a little flu", " it'll disappear all by itself".  We need a proper accounting for the origin of the virus in order to prepare for next time.  

  Now trump is claiming China owes us $10 trillion, if that's the case how much do we owe the world for the 1918 flu that originated in Kansas?

sdholloway56
Senior Advisor

Re: There's a big difference between ...

Had four years in control to sort out that “Obama spied on us” thingy.

jennys_mn
Veteran Advisor

Re: There's a big difference between ...


@sdholloway56 wrote:

Had four years in control to sort out that “Obama spied on us” thingy.


It’s far more “fun”, to sucker punch with a lie, than to prove the truth.   The truth is the existing Administration was responding responsibly to a possible security breach, with a US Candidate for President getting help from a foreign adversary.   And, due to the obstruction forces in our government, namely the Republican Party, the truth may never be told.

Jen

r3020
Senior Advisor

Re: There's a big difference between ...

Fauci and china lied. 100s of 1,000s of American died. That is what the science is telling us. Just as Trump had said.

jennys_mn
Veteran Advisor

Re: There's a big difference between ...

 


@r3020 wrote:

Fauci and china lied. 100s of 1,000s of American died. That is what the science is telling us. Just as Trump had said.




All the while, Trump - and you Bass Tards that follow him - were spreading the “It’s just the damn flu!!!” lie.   Trump knew - but his stock market was more important to his re-election bid,  than 600,000 Americans dead.

Trump, and all you that support that Bass tard, are at fault.   You ALL have the blood of many, many Americans on your hands.   And you can try - but it won’t ever wash off.

Jen

rsbs
Veteran Advisor

Re: There's a big difference between ...

From the "other site"

Covid....nearly 100 percent survival rate

Abortion....nearly 100 percent death rate