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kraft-t
Senior Advisor

Talking about persians

A local real estate agent named Al sold many new houses in the tulsa area. He was an Iranian but emphatically insisted that he was a persian. He came to america as part of the Iranian delegation to the UN. When the Shah was deposed he elected to remain in america because he feared for his safety in the "new Iran".

 

His wife chose to go home because of the family ties there and he stayed to sell houses to americans. I met him 10 years ago while shopping for a new home. Wehad many conversations together about any and all things but couldn't come to terms on a house.

 

Recently we have had some interest in upgrading to a new home and we have been visiting with some realtors with nothing being concluded. I happened to stop at on of the sales office for Al's old company and asked the sales person what happened to Al. It seems a though Al went back to Iran to visit his family and the government took his passport and refused to give it back. So Al is a permanent resident of persia now but no one knows whether he is content being there.

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KNAPPer
Senior Contributor

Re: Talking about persians

I worked with a man back in the 70s who was from Iran and also claimed he was Persian. I think Iranians who are not necessarily in love with nationalism tend to go with the Persian identity, which of course is certainly valid and goes way back.

kraft-t
Senior Advisor

Re: Talking about persians

Do you suppose the difference being that they accept the natiobnality without accepting the faith?

bruce MN
Advisor

Re: Talking about persians

Don, KNAPPer.....Wkik has a short page on it:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_of_Iran

 

 

Concludes more or less what you suggest don:

 

There are many Persians (Iranians) and non-Persians in the West who prefer "Persia" and "Persian" as the English names for the country and nationality, similar to the usage of La Perse/persan in French. According to Hooman Majd, the popularity of the term "Persia" among the Persian diaspora stems from the fact that "'Persia' connotes a glorious past they would like to be identified with, while 'Iran' ... says nothing to the world but Islamic fundamentalism." [11]

 

 

cotman03
Senior Contributor

Re: Talking about persians

I was in Dubai about a year ago and pointed out the Persian Gulf to my small group.  An Arab who spoke a little English overheard me and told me it is called the Arabian Gulf there and be careful calling it anything else.   I have always wondered why as he didn't speak English well enough for me to understand everything he said. 

bruce MN
Advisor

Re: Talking about persians

Interesting.  I'd think that Dubai would be a very interesting place to visit.  We've got neighbors who have a son and d-in -law who teach in an English school there. They've talked about going to visit them but have not.

 

 

cotman03
Senior Contributor

Re: Talking about persians

It was interesting.  Lots of wealth on display for all to see and on purpose.  I was there in September last year.  One hundred twenty degrees the day I left with Louisiana type humidity.  Hottest place I've ever been.  Flight from Atlanta was about 14 hours non-stop.  It is worth seeing but travel is tough and be prepared for heat.  I understand the winter/early spring months are much better and it is a big vacation destination for Arab and European travelers.