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The Change in the Debate

amidst all the gloom and depression over the state of the USA's finances, a few rays of light are shining through. The hatred, by spendthrift liberals and RINO's, of the "TEA Party" legislators is evident but so is the power of this new political force. By holding their ground on voting for more social spending, and by refusing tax increases of any sort, they have changed the debate in Washington, and this has been sorely needed for decades. Lyndon Johnson set us on a terrible trajectory, with his "great society" dreams and his bending over, for bribes, to the military industrial complex. Both of these errors have put us in the terrible position that the nation finds itself in, and it is possible that the USA does not survive the current challenges.

 

But by standing against the government social spending, the Tea Partiers have at least changed the debate. Maybe too late, maybe too little, but the current climate is a far cry from the days of Obamacare and more cradle to grave socialism.

 

I think we need to reform taxes, and take in much more tax revenue, but I am a firm believer that we first need to clamp down on spending so that the increased tax revenue goes to shore up our finances, rather than to enable a failed system to survive a few more years. So holding the line on new taxes, for now, is a very patriotic stand.

 

God bless the patriots, and may God enlighten those with their collective heads still in the sand....the sand that is flowing throught the hourglass as time runs out.

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Senior Advisor

Re: The Change in the Debate

You will never be elected nor will you get the nomination. The last time our national budget was in balance and had a surplus or close to it , the gop argument was that we were over taxed and should return that excess to taxpayers. That has been less than a decade ago and look at our present circumstances.

 

Ironically, there are still those that don't view that decision as a mistake. So how are you possibly going to reason with the unreasonable? There is nothing in the national debt that wasn't voted on by congressmen.

 

First you improve revenues whether through additional taxes or increased employment. Then you cut budgets and start with the defense department which has been spending 70% more than when we were faced with with the threat from the soviet union. Yet you expect taxpayers to keep funding those games while their own economic safety net is dismantled.

 

If I were you I would pray that the wisdom of solomon take root in the GOP and the message of Jesus that you care for the least of these instead of trying to do harm to them.

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this pretty well sums it up


 

 

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Advisor

Re: The Change in the Debate

i just figured this out. LBJ was from TEXAS and GWB was from TEXAS. maybe it's a conspiracy from the texans trying to destroy the USA

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Veteran Advisor

Re: Yeah, But....


@rawhide wrote:

i just figured this out. LBJ was from TEXAS and GWB was from TEXAS. maybe it's a conspiracy from the texans trying to destroy the USA


Yeah, but Jimmah Cahtah was from Georgia, and Barry Soetaro was from Hawaii, or maybe Chicago, or maybe Kenya..... and were much, much worse.

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Veteran Advisor

Re: The Change in the Debate

at least you finally figured out that electing a texan to the white house is probably never a good idea.

 

number one argument against making Rick Perry some sort of saviour for the GOP in 2012.

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Veteran Advisor

Re: The Change in the Debate

the truth is that the USA can cut entitlement spending by all of the currnet shortfalls, and our population is still going to be doing good by world standards.

 

You really need to take a trip to some other part of the world and see reality. Not just how a successful dentist on the Mexican side of the border lives.

 

The supposedly "poor" in the USA eat too much, drive cars, have TV's, cell phones, on and on. Let's get real.

 

And here, in this forum, we listen to retired government workers, that never developed any sense of thrift and savings, belly ache about how bad things are if they don't get an annual hike in benefits. Meanwhile they are planning their next vacation.

 

Working Americans are fed up with all this bullship, and they are going to continue to vote for cuts. THe ones pulling the cart are going to have a say in this debate for quite some time.

 

Obamacare was a case of the pendulum swinging so far to the left that the vibrations woke up a lot of sleeping Americans.

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Re: The Change in the Debate

I can`t add much to what you said Red, spot on.  At a reunion today a cousin investment advisor says "after the S and P downgrade, Obama is toast", he`s eating Tums like candy in anticipation  of the market open Monday.  Up until the last 2,3 yrs I have been mildly jealous of some of my family, now everyone has belt tightening on their minds.  Those who once proudly supported Obama, were today extremely quite about their past mistake.

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Re: The Change in the Debate


@BA Deere wrote:

I can`t add much to what you said Red, spot on.  At a reunion today a cousin investment advisor says "after the S and P downgrade, Obama is toast", he`s eating Tums like candy in anticipation  of the market open Monday.  Up until the last 2,3 yrs I have been mildly jealous of some of my family, now everyone has belt tightening on their minds.  Those who once proudly supported Obama, were today extremely quite about their past mistake.



I am sure that Reichs Leader Dale Walker (GTO) will not believe a word of the truth that you just wrote.  He just will never change his mind..... donkeys rarely do.