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BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: The Deer Hunter etc.

This election will tell if the tide has shifted on guns, I think with most Americans including urbanites they realize that in say Wyoming where everyone is armed to the teeth and very little crime compared to Washington DC and Chicago with confiscatory gun laws and tons and tons of crime...they (voters) so far can detach guns from crime and understand "more guns does not equal more crime".  I think that a liberal candidate in a district that gives away alot of "free candy" will not suffer at the polls for being anti-gun, because many urbanites don`t own a gun anyway and that free candy sure looks good.  But by and large gun control is a real 3rd tier issue with most voters.

 

 

Bernie Sanders wants to reward federal law breaking illegal aliens by granting them amnesty, which will mean MORE people on the welfare entitlement safety net and in the work force where Americans should be doing those jobs at a living wage rather than playing the unemployment game.

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: The Deer Hunter etc.

I don`t know what Trump will ultimately do as president, I do know that Hillary will drive us the rest of the way to Venezuela.  Donald Trump is at least showing that he has the solution, not seen in a candidate since Ross Perot in the 1990`s. and for that, the man Donald Trump deserves our vote.  Just look at all the Robber Barons and assorted Wallstreeters that will proudly support Hillary the $250,000 a pop speech giver for proof as to who wants what.

Canuck_2
Senior Contributor

Re: The Deer Hunter etc.

So BA, you think tariffs are the answer to your problems.

Did you support the tariffs that were put on tires in 2009?

That would make Obama and his governance your hero correct?

 

By the way have you done your homework and looked at what the outcome of that tariff was?

How many jobs did it create?

What was the cost of those jobs per increased employee?

 

What were the results on the chicken producers in your country?

 

When you do your homework you might not be so enthralled with more tariffs.

bruce MN
Advisor

Re: The Deer Hunter etc.

For god's sake man.  There are people and organizations all over the place that have been expressing a deep understanding of those matters for decades.  Been speaking out, writing, and even organizing.

 

Trouble is, they tend to very inclusive.  People who aren't Ward and June clones tend to show up and become engaged.  Which reveals your and Trump Nation's problem.  Ain't gonna stand with "those people". 

 

What ails can be improved upon to some degree via our Constitutionally constructed democratic process. But when a state full of people who are affected severely by neoliberalism run-amuck send folks like Steve King and Joni Ernst to Congress because they push the right cultural buttons, and then vote in line with the major various power complexes who draft the destructive policies, against the interests of their beleaguered working constituents, you get nada.

 

Trump can't help bring some ancient culture back. He's the personification of the secular modernism you retro Coolidge's and Ward Cleavers detest..

RJG640v8
Senior Contributor

Re: The Deer Hunter etc.

spot on Bruce !

 

I listened to Trump's deal yesterday where he took HRC to the woodshed, and he nailed her to the wall, it was all right on................... problem is that all one has to do is substitute names and put Trump's name where he put HRC's and you have the same. Just a sad year. The choice is crap sandwich or crap sandwich. 

schnurrbart
Veteran Advisor

Re: The Deer Hunter etc.

If you're smoking dope, stop!!  If you're not, start because if you think he has "the solution", you don't even know the problem!!!

bruce MN
Advisor

The BA Doctrine..right out on the highway

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: The Deer Hunter etc.

Okay bruce, I`ll bite: what people and organizations that have been speaking out and writing about these trade matters???  Are you sure they aren`t fronts for socialism?  Do they talk about stopping immigration? because if they don`t, they don`t know what the hell they`re talking about, there are simply TOO DAMNED MANY PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY! Too many people chasing too few living wage jobs that drives everyone`s wages down...Oh I suppose some of you liberals have some pseudo-christian ideal of dragging all the poor clowns from around the world in here like the Statue of Liberty says or whatever...but we`ll go broke..have went broke, we can`t drag the world`s downtrodden in here and shovel welfare to them, there isn`t enough Koch brothers to tax to do that, so get that out of your head and smell the coffee.

 

Do those groups you`re talking about advocate for the $15 minimum wage?  Well, they you go they are phony as a $15 bill with Harriet Tubman`s picture on it.   A factory worker loses his $30/hr job that goes to China or Mexico..all they can do is get a job as cashier at Caseys and Dollar general for $8, Bernie Sanders comes in and forces those companies to raise wages to $15 and the lose their job! and then they are supposed to thank Bernie Sanders???

 

No, you show me links to those clowns if I haven`t already described them.

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: The Deer Hunter etc.

I vaguely recall the tire tariff deal, if Obama did that, it was probably a good thing however it was not a change in his overall free trade policy.  In other words he threw crumbs to what`s left of the American labor unions...lipservice.

 

Oh hells yes I done my homework on trade and free trade...it`s a bunch of crap!  Oh I`m sure you Canadians like it because you`re the ones also screwing the United States.  Canada had ran trade surpluses with the world up until you got the extreme liberal prime ministers.

 

The US runs a $700 Billion trade deficit EVERY DAMNED YEAR, what the hell do we have to lose by saying the hell with the whole mess??? If we shut all trade imports and exports and looked only after ourselves, at least we`d be $700 billion to the good at the end of the year!  This isn`t rocket science, we could earn $700 billion not doing a damned thing!

 

I say Tariffs are the answer, because when a US worker is displaced, the job/jobs that are left are service based and if a Mexican doesn`t already have it, the US worker will bring home 1/2 or less what he previously did.  He will go from being a taxpayer to someone that gets earned income credits BACK on his taxes.  His family will be eligle for medical assistance and make trips to the local food bank, because the service based job wages are not living wage paying.

 

I`ve got tons of examples, like this Lake Mills Cummins Filtration Plant that moved to Mexico.

 

http://www.kttc.com/story/10994596/lake-mills-blind-sided-by-cummins-job-shift-to-mexico

 

400 jobs GONE!  No jobs availble that have a comperable pay to those factory jobs...Canuck, what do I tell those folks????   Their house payments are still there, their property taxes are still due, their kids still need to go to school and college...but their jobs are gone!

 

And you know, even with the lax environmental and worker safety and $2/hr wages in Mexico THE PRICE OF OIL FILTERS HAVE WENT UP!!!!   I say slap a damned tariff on every Mexican made oil filter coming into this country, in order to cover the social costs of UNDER-EMPLOYED people because of FREE TRADE!!!  It`s only right, it takes a certain amount of money for a family to live for one year, either the factory pays it in wages or the US taxpayer subsidizes the family`s living expenses...somebody pays, so why not assess the cost of "cheap products" right at the source when they come back into this country?

 

http://buchanan.org/blog/the-isolationist-myth-165

bruce MN
Advisor

Re: The Deer Hunter etc.

Essentially the entire progressive sphere....'crept in for the immigration and racial bits.. CUE: 3020 will bring up Woodrow Wilson and Margert Sanger and eugenics a century ago. 

 

Trump has has absolutely no intention of doing anything about any of the economic bits that have you so stirred up.  He's a sound bite grabber and will regurgitate anything he hears if he thinks the nativists will bite. And no intention of being involved in the construction of a GOP platform.

 

he has created the ingredients for the formation of a mob.  Nothing more than that.