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Canuck_2
Senior Contributor

The Queen to give a message about gays

Maybe she does notwant to be outdone by President Obama but indications are that Queen Elizabeth is going to sign the new Commonwealth Charter of rights which will protect the rights of all including gays.

She has asked to do it publicly with cameras rolling which is not her normal way of signing papers and she is expected to make a statement of agreement with the protection of all rights including gays.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/10/queen-elizabeth-ii-make-historic-televised-pledge-/

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Samnospam
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Re: The Queen to give a message about gays

Is this a meaningless resolution or will it actually affect Canadian law?

Canuck_2
Senior Contributor

Re: The Queen to give a message about gays

I expect in some countries it may be a meaningless resolution however the Commonwealth has turfed members that did not meet their standards in the past so maybe not so meaningless in the long run if applied stricly.

 

In Canada, from what I have read, I do not think it guarantees anything more than our charter of rights already covers so not likely to impact Canadian law.

Time will of course tell if some ruling comes back to cause some law to be tweaked in the future.

Samnospam
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Re: The Queen to give a message about gays

I've always been told by subjects of the queen that she is a powerless figurehead kept for tradition.  Can she at her own whim sign a paper that carries any force whatsoever?  

Canuck_2
Senior Contributor

Re: The Queen to give a message about gays


@Samnospam wrote:

I've always been told by subjects of the queen that she is a powerless figurehead kept for tradition.  Can she at her own whim sign a paper that carries any force whatsoever?  


She signs 'papers' that have been developed and accepted by the governments under her reign.

Some she probably totally agrees with others she probably has personal disagreement with but the indications are she totally agrees with this Commonwealth Charter.

 

BTW it is really her 'representative' that does the signing in most of the countries in the Commonwealth like the Govenor General in Canada.

The Govenor General is appointed by the Canadian government to be the head of government in Canada representing the Queen.

Samnospam
Advisor

Re: The Queen to give a message about gays

So this is a law that has already been passed by the legislatures of countries it pertains to and the queens signing has no real meaning in law?
Canuck_2
Senior Contributor

Re: The Queen to give a message about gays


@Samnospam wrote:
So this is a law that has already been passed by the legislatures of countries it pertains to and the queens signing has no real meaning in law?

It will not be law until she signs it since she is head of state in many of the countries of the Commonwealth.

Samnospam
Advisor

Re: The Queen to give a message about gays

You said some nations could be 'turfed' if they don't go along, does that mean it was not passed by their legislature?
Canuck_2
Senior Contributor

Re: The Queen to give a message about gays


@Samnospam wrote:
You said some nations could be 'turfed' if they don't go along, does that mean it was not passed by their legislature?

Don't know.

Was just reffering to past when some were kicked out because of policies in theor countries.

One example is South Africa which was kicked out for their apartheid ploicy.

They were readmitted after they got rid of that policy.

 

So by history a country ignoring the charter could be kicked out of the Commonwealth.

Samnospam
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Re: The Queen to give a message about gays

Found this 

 

'The charter, agreed by all Commonwealth heads of government on Dec. 14, 2012,'

 

http://m.christianpost.com/news/british-queen-signs-new-commonwealth-charter-as-debate-rages-over-ex...

 

You should read it, the take on the document is very different from the link you posted.