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Senior Contributor

Re: The Ugly Face of Socialism

And not socialism as the public doesn't own the farms.

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Re: The Ugly Face of Socialism

An interesting thing about advocates of socialism who live in non socialist systems, while they want socialized medicine or socialized energy, or socialize transportation, whatever,  I've yet to meet one who said "I want my business socialized".    Yet to meet one laborer who, while they wanted to be made owner of the business they worked for, wanted their homes become public property.

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Re: The Ugly Face of Socialism

And that is your explanation of why the food shelves in Venezuela are empty, Doctors are expected to work for $97 per month by the central planning decree, and the nation is a basket case? It's General Motors fault? and/or Exon?

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Re: The Ugly Face of Socialism

No Sam, socialism is not state ownership.

That is communism.

Check the definition.

 

those are both different from Capitalism where it is every person for themselves.

Both Communism and socialism try to have everyone contribute and everyone benefit while capitalism leaves many in positions of not having enough to live any kind of comfortable life like being unable to afford health care.

 

Even the Great USA is full of socialism like the Farm Bill but of course you think that is OK because you benefit from it.

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definition

a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole. synonyms: leftism, welfarism

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see also

http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Fascism.html

 

 

 

As an economic system, fascism is socialism with a capitalist veneer. The word derives from fasces, the Roman symbol of collectivism and power: a tied bundle of rods with a protruding ax. In its day (the 1920s and 1930s), fascism was seen as the happy medium between boom-and-bust-prone liberal capitalism, with its alleged class conflict, wasteful competition, and profit-oriented egoism, and revolutionary Marxism, with its violent and socially divisive persecution of the bourgeoisie. Fascism substituted the particularity of nationalism and racialism—“blood and soil”—for the internationalism of both classical liberalism and Marxism. Where socialism sought totalitarian control of a society’s economic processes through direct state operation of the means of production, fascism sought that control indirectly, through domination of nominally private owners. Where socialism nationalized property explicitly, fascism did so implicitly, by requiring owners to use their property in the “national interest”—that is, as the autocratic authority conceived it. (Nevertheless, a few industries were operated by the state.) Where socialism abolished all market relations outright, fascism left the appearance of market relations while planning all economic activities. Where socialism abolished money and prices, fascism controlled the monetary system and set all prices and wages politically. In doing all this, fascism denatured the marketplace. Entrepreneurship was abolished. State ministries, rather than consumers, determined what was produced and under what conditions.
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Re: definition

And by that definition there are probably only one or two countries that are 'socialist' in the world.

 

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Socialism

Since I live in a country that as we speak is being made great again, I don't think we need to worry much about Socialism. Go take a drive on your public road, stop by the public library and get a book on National Parks, then go see one. If you choose Nevada, make sure and visit the Hoover Dam, I'm sure public tours of the hydroelectric generators are available.

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Re: Socialism

Yeah - better go visit the national parks - while they are still there.....

 

https://thinkprogress.org/antiquities-act-impact-3fd56f7c3aed

 

Tick Tock.....BONGx2!!!!!!

 

Jen

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Re: The Ugly Face of Socialism

I can copy copy and paste and post it over if you'd like.