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Senior Contributor

The oil spill shows the problem with government

If any reasonable person watched the debacle in the Gulf they would admit that big government and over regulation causes as many if not more problems than it solves.

 

There are so many examples of the bungle in the Gulf that I know nobody on here would read them all.  But the most recent and typical is this story;

Biggest skimmer in the world blocked by federal government.

 

"the Environmental Protection Agency is worried that some of the 500,000 barrels of oily water sucked up each day by the vessel may contain some traces of oil when placed back in the Gulf."

 

TRACES for Heaven's sake.  IDIOTS.

 

MORE;

Alabama erects huge booms to sheild 200 miles of coastline.
Coast Guard uproots them.
Alabama attempts to buy snare booms to catch oil.
Fish & Wildlife veto's plan.
Alabama decides to hire 400 workers to patrol beaches scooping up oil.
OSHA refused to allow them to work more than 20 minutes out of ervery hour and required an hour break after 40 minutes of work.   

Slowing work to snail pace, just like the Obama administraions response to the spill.

 

like the Obama administraions response to the spill.

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Re: The oil spill shows the problem with government

Let's subcontract it to Blackwater.

Veteran Advisor

Re: The oil spill shows the problem with government

Actually, more than anything else, the events of the past decade are showing the limitations of government, whether big or small. A lot of things go wrong in the world, and there is never going to be a magic wand to wave to make them right.

 

Sensible conservative thinking tries to recognize this, and structure a society where people are the ones taking responsibility for their affairs, and not depending on some benevolent big brother entity to always be there, and make the bogey men of life just disappear.

 

I would rather pray to the God I believe in for the spiritual strength to deal with life's problems than to put my trust in some elected official with the hope that he/she will bail me out.

Senior Contributor

Re: The oil spill shows the problem with government

I believe a good case can be made that our current economic problems stem FROM government regulation. 

It was government that stopped the intelligent practice of red lining area's for lending. 

 

The Congressional Budget Office has ruled that losses at the mortgage giants could rise to $400 billion. And if housing prices deteriorate more and defaults kick up, the cost to the taxpayer could hit as much as $1 trillion.

Re: The oil spill shows the problem with government

Get over the Frannie Youtube.

Senior Contributor

Re: The oil spill shows the problem with government

The oil spill shows the problem with government. Well you got that right! When the GOPhers are running the show, everything goes to hell in a hand basket! Your ignorant party took off the regulations for everything, so we have an economic meltdown, and your so narrow minded you can't see an excuse but to blame anybody but your stupid party. The oil spill is Cheney's fault, they took the regulations of the oil companies drilling in the gulf, get that through your head, NOW! Every country in the world drilling off shore demands that the remote control blowout preventer be used and a secondary relief well drilled at the same time. Doesn't surprise me the greedy old fart is in the hospital, he should be in jail. All you people who voted for those incompetent nincompoops are complacent in what has befell our country.

Senior Contributor

your just never change your mind.

Obama was in bed with the oil company. 

Obama is in charge NOW.  He is responsible for the 70 days of inaction and the time prior to that inaction.

The Democrats created the lack of regulation before Bush even took office.  It was under Clinton in 1999.  It was the Democrats that barred President Bush from regulation of the banking and loans.

 

You just never get it right and you never change your mind.  So by you own admission you are what you are.

Senior Contributor

Re: The oil spill shows the problem with government

It is hilarious to see Repubs and Dems trying to blame everything all on the other party.  Talk about sheeple.  Yes there were Repubs pushing for deregulation of various industry just as there were some dems.  A popular talking point for Dems proven by GTO's post is that Repubs are to be blamed for everything gone wrong.  The facts show that the main sponsors of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999 which repealed the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933 were Repubs but the bill was supported by the Clinton administration and signed by President Clinton.   

 

Wall street Journal

 

In 1998 the Clinton administration ruled that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac could satisfy their affordable housing obligations by purchasing subprime mortgages. This ultimately made it possible for Fannie and Freddie to add a trillion dollars in junk loans to their balance sheets. 

 

 

In the summer of 2005, a bill emerged from the Senate Banking Committee that considerably tightened regulations on Fannie and Freddie, including controls over their capital and their ability to hold portfolios of mortgages or mortgage-backed securities. All the Republicans voted for the bill in committee; all the Democrats voted against it. To get the bill to a vote in the Senate, a few Democratic votes were necessary to limit debate. This was a time for the leadership Sen. Obama says he can offer, but neither he nor any other Democrat stepped forward.


Instead, by his own account, Mr. Obama wrote a letter to the Treasury Secretary, allegedly putting himself on record that subprime loans were dangerous and had to be dealt with. This is revealing; if true, it indicates Sen. Obama knew there was a problem with subprime lending -- but was unwilling to confront his own party by pressing for legislation to control it. As a demonstration of character and leadership capacity, it bears a strong resemblance to something else in Sen. Obama's past: voting present.

 

If Cheney and Bush went to far deregulating the oil industry why have the Dems and the Obama administration not done anything in the last year and a half to toughen up any weaken regulations especially when the Obama administration had recommended opening up more offshore drilling?  They could pass hottly contested health care reform why address these great wrongs you speak of?  You can only blame the other guys for so long GTO cause at some point you have to start taking responsibility for ones own actions.  Truth is Dems and Repubs a like have let down the American people and gave in to greed and special interest.

Contributor

Re: The oil spill shows the problem with government

A man must first have a mind in order to change it!

Senior Contributor

Re: The oil spill shows the problem with government

There has diffinately been some confusion by the government and BP on just what to do and if they should be allowed to do.  It appears BP decided that they would greatly increase oil dispersant chemicals whose safety and effectiveness are in doubt.  Early on I believe it was Densmark that offered their state of the art skimmer boats but the U.S. government rejected their offer as they worried about violating the Jones Act.  The government reportedly changed their mind and has accepted the offer.   I have seen experts say the governmnet is wasting their time paying to have sand berms built to try and keep oil out of inland waters to protect the wild life.  The experts the berms will doom certain wild life that needs to go swim in and out of the inland waters.  The experts also said the berms would not last long and would erode away with the waves fairly quickly and in the event of hurricane the would be destroy istantly.  The expert said it appeared the government was not sure just what to do so it decided to build the berms so as to make it look to the American people that they were busy actually doing something about the oil spill.