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sdholloway56
Senior Advisor

Things that some of us Just Know

About the assertion that the 1918 Spanish Flu was much worse.

Profile is very different in terms of who the 'rona hits- thankfully not young adults, very much.

But the estimated IFR was around 2.5% vs. probably something like .5% for the 'rona. But there was virtually no effective supportive care available then- apples to apples might be closer with deaths then vs. hospitalizations now. And we're getting better at interventional care.

One speculation has been that a lot of the flu deaths were actually aspirin overdoses. That was about the only effective medication at the time (only reduced fever) and many were dosed at 10-100X modern levels. If two are good, 20 must be better.

Aspirin is pretty toxic stuff- the LD50 is way higher than a lot of pesticides.

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sdholloway56
Senior Advisor

Re: Things that some of us Just Know

I think it is fair to speculate that a high percentage of people who required hospitalization with Covid-19 would have died with 1918 level care.

sdholloway56
Senior Advisor

Re: Things that some of us Just Know

Population adjusted basis the 1918 Flu would have killed around 2.5M in the US.

By spring we'll probably be at around 400K and total cumulative hospitalizations will have been around a million.

So I'll semi-retract my claim to equivalency but not in terms of magnitude.

 

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Things that some of us Just Know

Yeah yeah yeah, people die and sick people die sooner.  But make the case that Hillary or Jobiden would have 3 or 4 fewer Covid deaths.  If Democrats are in, they will throw people in prison for not wearing maskings and using sanitizer?  This sitting in the basement proclaiming "I would do better!" doesn`t cut it to those with IQs larger than their shoe size.  Anyone can claim to be able to herd cats across the desert, until they saddle up.

sdholloway56
Senior Advisor

Re: Things that some of us Just Know

Many other advanced countries with fewer resources have done much better.

In virtually all things the hallmark of the GQP is imperviousness to real world evidence.

rsbs
Veteran Advisor

Re: Things that some of us Just Know

BA, you have to forgive the tards for going to the well nonstop with COVID X Infinity cause really, what do they have? Tired old horse in the stable, with a cackling nag running along side, and every issue they have put up has gotten beaten down.

Has to be a pretty trying time to be a liberal again, just like 2016 was. Get ready for the November 4th tears from Gayle King...aka Blondie.

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Things that some of us Just Know

The United States leads the world in Covid testing, the hell of it is with this strain of the flu is the more you test, the more cases you find.  When actually if the media didn`t freak everyone out about it, they`d drink water, eat chicken soup and rest for a week and recover as 99% of everyone else that suffers from the flu.  

Well, if Jobiden does win, you`ll (Shazam!) be saying exactly what I just said post-January 20th, 2021, when you try and talk up the socialist economy.