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Veteran Advisor

Re: This should give you libs a stroke!

"No variables other than a firearm in the home were important predictors of firearm homicide."

Duh.

So, again, another study that basically says if you have a gun in the home, you have a greater chance of something happening with a gun in the home.  If I travel by car, I have a greater chance of being in a car accident than one who does not travel by car.  If I have teeth, I have more of a chance for  cavities than one who does not.  If I farm, I have a greater chance to have a farm accident.

Senior Contributor

Re: This should give you libs a stroke!

You should look at the complete study and you will find they looked at death certificates and then interviewed to find out which deaths included a gun in the home.

Results match what other studies have found, a gun in the home raises the risks of death and death by gun.  Domestic disputes are one thing resulting in gun violence when a gun is in the home. Suicides are higher with a gun in the home and more successful.

You can believe a gun is good and safe but evidence shows they raise the risks.

Guns that are locked up are safer especially when children are in the home.

It is all so sensible when you think about it. With a gun, which is designed to kill, available are people will be killed.

Senior Advisor

Re: This should give you libs a stroke!

Not for a woman living alone and a rapist crashing through her door. You want to deny her the right to self defense.

Senior Contributor

Re: This should give you libs a stroke!

3020 study up on risk benefit.

How often does a rapist come crashing through a door of a woman living alone?

Now unless she shoots the rapist as soon as they come through the door they will have the gun AND all those other risks apply to all this woman while the chance of a rapist crashing though the door is negligible 

Senior Advisor

Re: This should give you libs a stroke!

What gives you the right to take away a woman best means of self defense who is facing a rapist

Senior Contributor

Re: This should give you libs a stroke!

Why do you say I am taking anything away?

I just point out the stats that say she would be safer if she got rid of the gun herself 

Her choice if she wants to be safer she will get of the gun and if she is fanatical about guns then she will less safe.

Unfortunately the rest of society is less safe when she keeps a gun too.

Senior Advisor

Re: This should give you libs a stroke!

More unarmed women are raped than those that are arm.

Veteran Advisor

Re: This should give you libs a stroke!

Don't know how to say it any clearer --

A person with a gun does have a higher risk of being harmed by a gun (which they have).  Similarly, a person without a gun does have a lower risk of being harmed by a gun (because they don't have one,  mostly due to accidents with handling guns, and use of available gun in suicide attempts, which also tend to be more fatal than suicide attempts by other means).   

Outside of armed services, police, gangs, etc. -- A person with a gun does not necessarily have a higher risk of being harmed by someone else's gun, compared to a person without a gun being harmed by someone else's gun.

The point is -- Statistics can be developed to support any angle wanted.  

I'd be more concerned about being killed by mistakes made in the hospital.