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Senior Contributor

Re: This would make the choice a lot easier

I guess they would not be a 'donor' if it was taken without their consent.

 

But to answer your question what is the difference in forcing a woman to carry an unwanted fetus for 9 months just because it has the potential to become a human and forcefully taking a kidney from someone because it will save the life of a human who is already alive and needs it to continue to live?

Senior Advisor

Re: This would make the choice a lot easier

The fetus is a human. You not only want to take it's kidney, you want to kill it completely. For convenience. No other reason. Only for convenience.

Senior Contributor

Re: This would make the choice a lot easier

3020 the proper use of words would take a lot of the confusion out of this.

 

A baby exists only after it takes it's first breath before that it is a fetus therefore a baby by definition is alive until then it was a fetus.

Now IF a fetus is induce in an attempt at abortion and breathes then it is protected by law and will be treated with necessary medical procedures.

 

Your link is just a smear and misleading story rather than dealing with the truth.

 

Try reading this for actual facts.

 

https://www.politifact.com/new-york/statements/2019/feb/22/michael-long/abortion-foe-makes-exaggerat...

 

Justin Flagg, wrote in an email that "the RHA does not change standards of medical practice. Any baby born alive in New York State would be treated like any other live birth, and given appropriate medical care. This was the case before the RHA, and it remains the case now."

"A provider that inappropriately abandons or neglects a patient would violate professional misconduct laws and be subject to significant sanctions which include losing his/her medical license, fines, as well as potential civil and criminal liability," said Hazel Crampton-Hays, a spokeswoman for Cuomo. "The Reproductive Health Act does nothing to change that."

Federal law also protects infants in this situation. The Born Alive Infants Protection Act of 2002 states that any person born alive under any circumstance has full rights as any other person.

 

 

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Senior Contributor

Re: This would make the choice a lot easier

rsbs  why is it different to force a woman to carry an unwanted fetus for 9 months just because that fetus has the potential to become a human and forcing a person to give one of their kidneys to save the life of a living human?

 

Harvesting organs after death is of course different from taking a kidney from a living person and I know of no country that allows organ 'harvesting' with out consent or the ability to refuse to allow it.

Senior Advisor

Re: This would make the choice a lot easier

A human fetus is an unborn child. Nothing confusing about it what so ever. Kill an unborn human fetus and you kill an unborn child. To deny that is to deny science.

 

In New York if a child survives an abortion, a child which is now breathing, it is legal to kill that child.

Senior Contributor

Re: This would make the choice a lot easier

Canuck throws himself under the bus constantly.....lololol.

"Now IF a fetus is induce in an attempt at abortion and breathes then it is protected by law and will be treated with necessary medical procedures."

Since his rational is that the wording of the law is the ultimate basis of when a child should be protected, the change in the wording negates everything he is saying otherwise. As Alabama has already done.


Congratulations dumb@zz!
Veteran Advisor

Re: This would make the choice a lot easier

Here is something that will get to you if you think
About it.

In alabama....an unborn human is fully protected...
You try to harm it, you are in big dodo.

But.....once the baby is born, and the mother is
From south of the border, you want to ship it out
Of the USA.

You are Soo worried about the child before it's
Born....but afterwords....who cares.

Senior Contributor

Re: This would make the choice a lot easier

Why are you advocating for a child to be separated from their parent and left in a country that they are not Constitutionally a citizen of by birth?
Senior Advisor

Re: This would make the choice a lot easier

So it would be better to kill the baby? Why would the mother come to this terrible country to give birth in the first place? Your logic says the baby is better off dead than living in beautiful Mexico. And why no concern for the unborn babies of Alabama. Better off if they are dead?

Senior Contributor

Re: This would make the choice a lot easier

(Why deflect instead of answering why it is different to force a pregnancy on a woman and not force donating a kidney to save a life on others?)

 

Already did answer that.