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Senior Contributor

Time for a third party?

I see it reported on NBC news that a majority of Americans now think it is time for a third political party.   With the recent success of the Tea Party one would have to think the timing is right.   Could a perfect storm be brewing out there with many unhappy Repubs, Dems and Independents.  People who are upset with our country's pork barrel spending by both parties and who believe our government needs to get its financial house in order before suggesting any new unfunded spending programs.  People who upset with Wall Street and large corps dictating how they are regulated.  Folks unhappy with our current campaign finance system which allows the rich to bribe politicians. 

 

The Tea Party seems to have a love or hate relationship with most Americans and is to far to conservative for many folks.  It would be nice to see a new third party that lies more in the middle of the road somewhere between Dems and Repubs.  For any new proposed new third party I suggest they find a wise old experience leader with the intention being this new leader would lead for only a short time, say one 4 year term while the party gets it's feet under them.  Do you think Ron Paul will be to old in 2012?

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Senior Advisor

Re: Time for a third party?

Do you think Ron Paul is middle of the road? I know what he offers to repubs. A not so wacked out version of the right. But waht does he offer dems? What would vbe his stand on health care? On unemployment benefits? On education funding? Etc

Veteran Advisor

Re: There Already Is One....


@dagwud wrote:

I see it reported on NBC news that a majority of Americans now think it is time for a third political party.   With the recent success of the Tea Party one would have to think the timing is right.   Could a perfect storm be brewing out there with many unhappy Repubs, Dems and Independents.  People who are upset with our country's pork barrel spending by both parties and who believe our government needs to get its financial house in order before suggesting any new unfunded spending programs.  People who upset with Wall Street and large corps dictating how they are regulated.  Folks unhappy with our current campaign finance system which allows the rich to bribe politicians. 

 

The Tea Party seems to have a love or hate relationship with most Americans and is to far to conservative for many folks.  It would be nice to see a new third party that lies more in the middle of the road somewhere between Dems and Repubs.  For any new proposed new third party I suggest they find a wise old experience leader with the intention being this new leader would lead for only a short time, say one 4 year term while the party gets it's feet under them.  Do you think Ron Paul will be to old in 2012?


There already IS one .... It is called the Modern Whig Party.  It is sorta the place for strong military, RINO types to hang out.

I wonder if the liberals/socialists....thinking that the game is over....might try to push the idea of a third party, in order to split the conservative vote, and win overall, by default?  It would not surprise me in the slightest if they choose to go that route....heck, it works in all of the other socialist countries.

Dem M.O.....Divide and Conquer!

That is exactly why many of us are working to rid the GOP of all its RINOs and get back to a common sense Constitutional Conservative Republic, with an emphasis on stronger local governance and less theft by government. With this new crop of Constitutionalists.... the old GOP will become the NEW GOP that will clean the poop out of our hallowed halls.

Senior Contributor

Re: Time for a third party?

I'm thinking Paul could offer a way to stop run away inflation and keep other countries from thinking America is no longer a safe place for them to invest their money in and hopefully keeping them from pulling the rug out from under our feet resulting in our country's financial house of cards to come tumbling down.   Hopefully Paul could offer a way to balance our budget before it snow balls completely out of control becoming a far greater risk to our country then any terrorists or wars.  

 

I would be in favor of Ron Paul being willing to negotiate and tone down some his more extremist views but think we desperately need someone willing and able to make the tough decisions that are necessary at this time.  We need someone not bought and paid for by Wall Street like our past Dem and Repub presidents.

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Re: Time for a third party?

The difference between the mainstream R and D is penny thin.

 

On the conventional political left/right scale Ron Paul is far to the right of the mainstream R's.  Probably too old in 2012.

 

The fact that you see the same people expressing their hatred of both mainstream R and tea party candidates is strictly team related.

 

 

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Re: Time for a third party?

 Dr. Paul has stated that the US government must keep the promises it has made to citizens, SS, health care, etc..  He wants to end the Empire, close foreign bases, bring troops home, stop meddling in other Nation's business, that should move enough resources to be able to manage that.  And put a target on his back.

 

  The problem any third party or honest President will have is the established traitors in Congress and the PTB.  

 

  I don't believe he is to old. 

Veteran Advisor

Re: Time for a third party?

As the kids say...."This one guy"....asks esentially what you do, lbeit more crudely:

 

http://kunstler.com/blog/2010/09/puke-time.html

 

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Senior Advisor

Re: Time for a third party?

That is why I could not support Ron Paul.

 

The SS trust fund is already invested in U.S Government securities. Most any nincompoop knows that. The trust fund is not spent. It is lent to the government. I'm not so ignorant to think the bank has spent my CD money. They loan it to borrowers. My savings are guaranteed by the FDIC which is government entity. The same government that will guarantee the SS trust fund bonds.

 

The only thing that is failing about SS is those that don't want to properly fund it. As with the budget deficits, there are these dreamers that think we can run giovernment without paying taxes. Private insurers have raised rates far beyond rate increases to medicare. Yet somehow these boneheads argue that private health insurance is more efficient that the public version, MEDICARE.

 

I cannot understand such bizarre logic. The government war machine privatizes some of the activities and Halliburton and Blackwater rape and pillage the tqaxpayers and yet you argue that private enterprise is more efficitent. How many of our troops command  $100K per year while the blackwater hired thugs knock down a salarly like that with ease.

 

It's simply nonsense to suggest that the private market works better for the taxpayer than public efforts.

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Re: Time for a third party?

Don, the bank takes your deposit (ok this is the fairy tale version for simplicity) loans it out at a return so it can pay you and your interests.  The government spends fica collections with no return, the money is gone forever.