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jennys_mn
Veteran Advisor

Re: Fact checking for Canuck

Immaterial argument BA.  Trump is in office.  The BUCK, and the responsibility, whether or not he accepts it, stops with him.  

Conjecture as to how it may have been handled by someone else, is immaterial.  This handling was by Trump.  He failed.  Period.

Jen

rsbs
Advisor

Re: Fact checking for Canuck

BA, do you think that Pervy Joe has figured out yet that corona isnt the beer flu?

Mrs. Clinton is probably still wondering why BJ's clothes still keep having all those stains on them.

Thank God for Donald and Mike...they ain't much but they are headsup better than what the clowns put out there.

 

jennys_mn
Veteran Advisor

Re: Fact checking for Canuck

I think you misstated Biden for Kavanaugh when it comes to the beer flu.

And I’m sure the First Lady of Porn wonders who Trump is getting it on with today - and probably glad it isn’t her.  

And you’re right - Trump and Mike ain’t much.  But you guys elected them anyway without being fully vetted.  You got what you deserve.  It’s just that the rest of us, have to help pay for your mistake - again...

Jen

Canuck_2
Senior Contributor

Re: Fact checking for Canuck

So some reported a new disease but they are not in the World Health Organization.

How does it become "WHO saying there was no transmission between people" when it was not even told of the disease until the end of 2019 and the first announcement from WHO acknowledged that there was a report of this nouveau virus but no comment about how dangerous it was?

WHO can not go into sovereign countries without permission.

So why blame WHO ? and further claim it made statements that it did not do.

If China was slow in telling WHO then that is China's mistake but remember China was dealing with a new virus that had not been seen before

Then when the world became aware of this new virus and it had been documented some leaders ignored the hazard and did little to nothing to prepare.

As I have asked, 'where is there evidence of WHO saying the new virus could not be transmitted between humans in December?'

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Fact checking for Canuck

Can we all just admit that every country made mistakes and in probably regardless who was "in charge" more than likely the SAME mistakes would`ve been made, because as Canuck said China probably wasn`t up to snuff on what they were dealing with.  This is looking like a 1 in 100 year pandemic, we just have to cut every country a big fat break and solve this thing. 

jennys_mn
Veteran Advisor

No - I Can’t Agree BA

If there were those of us on here - saying our government is not doing enough - that the country needs to be shut down - and then, there are you supporting the PINO, saying, “It’s just the damn flu!!”, well,  there’s obviously a disconnect somewhere.  Why did those of us not in the president’s pocket know what Trump apparently didn’t?

And why did you and your buddies continue to say - it’s just the flu - we don’t need to close things down - this is all going to be over in a couple of weeks - everything is fine, fine, fine.

Why did we know it - and the administration that you back didn’t?  And, judging by Trump’s comments even today, he is itching to open everything.  

I got news for ya....it’s going to be a long, long time before things are back to what they were.  Not soon, like Trump is saying.  This will be the year without a summer in the US - no beaches, no parks, no fairs.  

Go home, be home, stay home.  That’s the theme of this summer.  

Jen

Canuck_2
Senior Contributor

Re: Fact checking for Canuck

Your post is quite correct BA except you did not mention that South Korea had a plan and carried it out starting with their first documented case the same day the US documented your first case.

They have not even shut things down as much as most countries and have held the cases to a low number.

Most countries are working at solving it with much co-operation in looking for a vaccine and studies to see if there are good medical procedures to help those who are sick.  Unfortunately too many want to jump the gun and go with  public opinion and use unproven solutions with clams that have not been backed up with research and studies. Maybe they will be proven correct but it is safer to wait for proof before taking drugs that have other side effects if they do not improve the outcome from Covid.

jennys_mn
Veteran Advisor

Re: No - I Can’t Agree BA

There is a reason for the disconnect - one big reason - ITS THE ECONOMY, STUPID!   And by Trump’s words today, he is willing to risk  more lives - for money, the stock market, and what ultimately be his losing in November.

Jen

Edmund55
Senior Contributor

Re: No - I Can’t Agree BA

(Why did we know it - and the administration that you back didn’t?)

President Trump at 2/4/2020 SOTU Address:  “Protecting Americans’ health also means fighting infectious diseases. We are coordinating with the Chinese government and working closely together on the coronavirus outbreak in China. My administration will take all necessary steps to safeguard our citizens from this threat.”

Speaker of the House Pelosi after ripping up The President's SOTU Address speech:  "I tore up the manifesto of mistruths."

 

r3020
Senior Advisor

Re: Fact checking for Canuck

China and WHO lied. 10s 0f 1,000s died.