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What Obama knew and when he knew it

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Retired Army Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer said Saturday on Fox News that sources told him President Barack Obama was in the White House Situation Room watching the assault on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya as it unfolded.

Two unarmed U.S. drones were dispatched to the consulate, recording and transmitting the final hours of the attack, which killed U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens and three other Americans.

“This was in the middle of the business day in Washington, so everybody at the White House, CIA, Pentagon, everybody was watching this go down,” Shaffer said. “According to my sources, yes, [Obama] was one of those in the White House Situation Room in real-time watching this.”

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/161421

 

 

And why he tried so hard to cover it up

 

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First, it is important to understand that Ambassador Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Dougherty and Tyrone Woods were not killed at a consulate office in Benghazi—as there is not such office there. They died at one of the largest CIA operations centers in the Middle East, which was located in Benghazi and served as the logistics headquarters for arms and weapons being shipped out of the post-Qaddafi Libya.

Although the U.S. government insisted that Stevens was involved in securing and destroying the numerous caches of arms and weapons once under the control of Qaddafi, the operation was more complex than that. The visual accounts of weapons being destroyed were indeed real, but those weapons were not operational. The working weapons were actually separated and transported to holding facilities for their eventual use in Syria. Russia was fully aware of this operation and warned the U.S. not to engage in the destabilization of Syria, as doing so would endanger their national security interests. Deposing Assad, as despotic as he might be, and replacing him with a Muslim Brotherhood-led regime would likely lead to unrestrained Islamic chaos across the region.

The Turkish warning

According to my source, Ambassador Stevens was in Benghazi on September 11, 2012 to meet with his Turkish counterpart, who reportedly warned Stevens that the operation was compromised. They met in person so that Stevens could be shown overhead satellite images, taken by the Russians, of nefarious activities taking place in Turkey. But just what were these nefarious activities?

It is reasonable to suspect that these activities were more dire than just your average “gun running” operation. Since the overthrow of Qaddafi, it is estimated that upwards of 40 million tons of weapons and arms were shipped out of Libya to Syria. But it was also known inside intelligence circles that Qaddafi possessed chemical weapons in addition to numerous surface-to-air missiles. Could it be that Russia obtained unmistakable surveillance footage of the anti-Assad “rebels” being shown how to load chemical payloads onto missiles inside Turkey near the border of Syria? Weapons, of course, that were shipped from Libya by the CIA in conjunction with various Muslim Brotherhood rebel groups.  If so, such weapons could be used as a “false flag” type of operation—one that would be implemented to “set-up” Assad by making it appear that he was using these weapons on forces dedicated to his overthrow.

The blowback by the international community would be swift and punishing, and the entirety of the civilized world would be demanding his overthrow. NATO would then be used to expedite his ouster, and Russia’s moral position within the international community would be weakened. Was the meeting held to show Stevens that the operation was compromised and that they had to stop?

 

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Re: What Obama knew and when he knew it

Do you recognize any sources of information other than the mouthpieces for radical religious interests in the West? The way Hagemann frames this it could actually be used to justify creating a line of discussion in no different manner than national leaders have been doing here since our inception. That being for the purpose of avoiding the possibility of widespread mortal conflict. If this were over anything other than a cherry for neoconservative opportunism you wouldn't be pretending to give a crap and would care less over why, what or how. Transpond it to Quatemala or Uzbekistan at any point over the last 65 years and try to imagine that you'd have wanted it hahdled any differently.
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Re: What Obama knew and when he knew it


@bruce MN wrote:
Do you recognize any sources of information other than the mouthpieces for radical religious interests in the West? The way Hagemann frames this it could actually be used to justify creating a line of discussion in no different manner than national leaders have been doing here since our inception. That being for the purpose of avoiding the possibility of widespread mortal conflict. If this were over anything other than a cherry for neoconservative opportunism you wouldn't be pretending to give a crap and would care less over why, what or how. Transpond it to Quatemala or Uzbekistan at any point over the last 65 years and try to imagine that you'd have wanted it hahdled any differently.

So in other words. Nothing to see here. Move on. None of this matters.

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Re: What Obama knew and when he knew it

I said nothing of the sort.  What happened there and is continuing to happen in that part of the world is a very serious situation.  Just not sure I want the bar moved on matters of serious diplomacy when potential global conflict is a possibility.

 

I seem to recall the furor here when a couple of us pointed to the reality of the matter when a previous adminsitratio essentially performed a hostile coup in-kind and abducted President Aristede in Haiti and swept him away into protective custody for his "own good". 

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@bruce MN wrote:

I said nothing of the sort.  What happened there and is continuing to happen in that part of the world is a very serious situation.  Just not sure I want the bar moved on matters of serious diplomacy when potential global conflict is a possibility.

 

I seem to recall the furor here when a couple of us pointed to the reality of the matter when a previous adminsitratio essentially performed a hostile coup in-kind and abducted President Aristede in Haiti and swept him away into protective custody for his "own good". 


You dang right it is a serious thing. Obama knew EXACTLY what was going on WHILE it was going on. He and his administration lied to us for days. There is a film maker SETTING IN JAIL because of the Obama administration. There are four dead Americans. There are 100s of unanswered questions. The lamestream media has ask none of those questions. And you try to blame the whole thing on right wing religious nut jobs. Why?

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Re: What Obama knew and when he knew it

To be a good liar a god memory is of primary importance.  The other day you saidObama went to bed and was asleep when the action started.  Now you say he watched the whole thing live.  You cannot believe your sources when they pass contradictory info like that.  But maybe you could.

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@gough whitlam wrote:

To be a good liar a god memory is of primary importance.  The other day you saidObama went to bed and was asleep when the action started.  Now you say he watched the whole thing live.  You cannot believe your sources when they pass contradictory info like that.  But maybe you could.


He watched it live until he got bored, then he went to bed so he could head off to Vegas the next day for a fund raiser. He also spent an hour on the phone during the attack talking to Israeli President Netanyahu.

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Re: What Obama knew and when he knew it

even if you discount every other detail that may not yet be 100% verified as true, there is no doubt, absolutely no doubt, that the spontanious riot over the movie story was an intentional fabricated liethey knew from the start that it was an organized attack

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Re: What Obama knew and when he knew it

I'm still waiting for you to put up the source for your alligation that "they" called Obama or that Obama called "them"..  You might also push Fox News to name their sources "close to the situation".  Or you can just STFU!!

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eyewitness accounts

 

At around 9:30 p.m. on Sept. 11, 2012, the four guards at the compound entrance—Nasser, Ubayd, Abdullah and Anwar–were casually eating sandwiches and talking about a recent soccer game, trying to pass the time on another monotonous night of watch duty. This one seemed no different from the others before: days and nights staring at the high walls that obscured the luxury villas in the posh Benghazi neighborhood where the American mission was located.  But on this night, the silence of the secluded streets was dramatically shattered............................

 

The attackers found Nasser and Ubayd in the laundry room behind the C villa.  “Are we safe if we open the door?’ they asked, trying to negotiate with the attackers before unlocking it. Apparently not. “They pulled our hair and beat us for 10 minutes,” Ubayd said.  One man wearing what he called “Afghan” garb – a long baggy robe with pants underneath — stood out among the others, shouting orders and landing the most ferocious blows.  “He said I was not a Muslim and had to die.  He couldn’t have been Libyan. He didn’t look Libyan and Libyans just don’t dress like that.” After 10 minutes of insults and beatings, the attackers told Nasser and Ubayd to leave the compound.

While Hussein, Fadil and Tawfiq were able to evade the attackers, Anwar, Mikhlaf, Nasser and Ubayd were being led out of the compound where another group of assailants roughed them up.  “There were many people at the entrance,” Ubayd said.  “Maybe one hundred.  Some wore Afghan clothing and others had their faces covered.” After absorbing another round of blows, some of the attackers escorted them to their cars and they drove off.