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bruce MN
Veteran Advisor

Re: Reckless endangerment of other peoples lives

Part of the basis for the point I was trying to make.

kraft-t
Senior Advisor

Re: What is the upside

to burning the koran other than give you some personal satisfaction? It will accomplish nothing positive. Nothing at all.

Canuck_2
Veteran Advisor

Re: What are you fighting?


@acfarmer wrote:

I would say that what we are doing now is just policing . I might be wrong but from what I have read and listened to this is more than likely what they are calling what we are doing over there.


I was not trying to put you on the spot but you said people had forgotten what they are fighting and I agree. Lots of fighting for no purpose.

Policing? I'm not sure what. The conquered people in the countries you attacked maybe but if there had been no war fought there was there a need for the policing?

Re: Don't Let Ideology Get In The Way Of Comprehension, Brian.


@schnurrbart wrote:

I seriously doubt anyone was trying to convert your little kids in a one hour talk.  But you keep your children ignorant of the different peoples of the world and keep them in Iowa.  If it were any other culture like the culture of Ireland, you would embrace it with both arms.  Don't give me the crap about Islam being violent unless you want to talk about the violence of Christianity also.  I have no problem with kids being taught differences between cultures and tolerance of things different from them and their culture.  I bet the grade school kids have Christmas parties and programs all over Iowa also.  We did in Illinois and they do in Arizona also.  In high school we had the Eldorado Ministerial alliance speak to us every month with a different faith of the community each month.  I admit that we had no Muslim mosques in our little town but if there had been, we would have learned about Islam also.  The world is not black or white.  Give it up!  Don't let the crack pots of the world mess your mind up.  And don't think for a second that we don't have our share of crackpots here.


Holy Columbia, Brian....You were so focused on your ideology, that you completely glossed over what I wrote.....Let me type it again for you to, hopefully, read it, this time.....

At the local Indianola Public Elementary School...Irving School.... had muslim Iowa House Representative Ako Abdul-Samad and an Islamic imam visit the third grade to teach the kids about Islam, gave them muslim names to feel the part of being muslim.....AND, taught the kids how to PRAY to Allah.

The parents were not consulted.

Also, in the Indianola High School, this past year, the High School 11th grade had to attend an assembly that had a muslim representative tell the children how wonderful Islam is.   He did not go into Sharia Law and how women are treated as chattel and property.... and how death is the penalty for most offences to "Islam".

Why, pray tell, would they teach the children how to pray to Allah, if they were not intending in persuading them to consider following Islam???

My oldest daughter was in Kindergarten, in a different building at the time.  This happened at the end (April, I believe) of that year.  We let her finish that year there and we set up housekeeping in the next county by Labor Day.   I drive back and forth to the farm and stay over when the work is busy, ever since.

Indianola Schools do not permit any observance of the Christmas Holiday..... It is the "Winter Break", and the "Holiday Tree" (formerly known as a Christmas Tree), and they sing "Holiday Songs" (the ones that have absolutely no mention of Christ).

No Brian..., they have a liberal axe to grind and my family was not going to be a part of THAT.

Our current school (shhh, don't tell anyone) does not have a hissy fit over someone wearing a Christian tee-shirt, sings a few real Christmas songs, and have a Christmas break at the end of December.

Liberalism is getting harder and harder to escape, but it is still possible.  In Indianola, after the Islam Indoctrination deal....several families started their own home schooling programs and there are now Two Christian schools in town.   People will not be forced to accept the liberal indoctrination, they will find ways to fight it off.

We were successful in getting one Christian school board member elected last year, and he is fighting the good fight with the rest of the socio-humanist bunch.  Next election, we hope to add to the members of the school board, until we get a majority and reign in the liberal doctrine once again.   Then, Indianola will be a town worth living in, again.

Re: What are you fighting?


@Canuck_2 wrote:

@acfarmer wrote:

I would say that what we are doing now is just policing . I might be wrong but from what I have read and listened to this is more than likely what they are calling what we are doing over there.


I was not trying to put you on the spot but you said people had forgotten what they are fighting and I agree. Lots of fighting for no purpose.

Policing? I'm not sure what. The conquered people in the countries you attacked maybe but if there had been no war fought there was there a need for the policing?


That's right,  if there had been no war in Iraq, Saddam Hussein would be doing a right fine job of that, with his Baath Party....right now.   Yes, indeed.... those Kurds would be all dead and quiet by now, and the rapings and murders would be going on, right on schedule.....yessiree, all sweetness and light!

schnurrbart
Veteran Advisor

Re: Once, Again.....

No, I didn't say anything about them "teaching" the kids a different religion.  I said "teaching them 'about' a different religion and culture."  BIG difference.  I don't know but that they do that.  I know we were taught about the different religions of the world but no one did it in a way as to try to convert anyone.  I don't think they were doing that in podunk county Iowa either.

schnurrbart
Veteran Advisor

Re: Don't Let Ideology Get In The Way Of Comprehension, Brian.

In music class we learned to sing the French anthem.  Were we being prepared to swear allegiance to France?  NO!  US troops stationed in Korea got name tags on their uniforms written in Korean.  Was that to prepare them to become koreans?  NO!!  Holy Cow, Craig!!  Do you REALLY believe that????  You are so engrossed in your hatred of all things nonAmerican that you miss the point!!  You stated emphatically that the school teachers and administrators were pushing conversion to Islam of the students of your town.  You know that isn't true.  Quit lieing to make your point seem larger than it is.  There is an old joke that applies to this--your wife has been told so many times that 6" is a foot she believes it.

r3020
Senior Advisor

what would motivate people to burn the koran?

May be this. How many korans did they burn on 9-11-01?

 

Re: I Give Up, Brian :o(


@schnurrbart wrote:

In music class we learned to sing the French anthem.  Were we being prepared to swear allegiance to France?  NO!  US troops stationed in Korea got name tags on their uniforms written in Korean.  Was that to prepare them to become Koreans?  NO!!  Holy Cow, Craig!!  Do you REALLY believe that????  You are so engrossed in your hatred of all things non-American that you miss the point!!  You stated emphatically that the school teachers and administrators were pushing conversion to Islam of the students of your town.  You know that isn't true.  Quit lying to make your point seem larger than it is.  There is an old joke that applies to this--your wife has been told so many times that 6" is a foot she believes it.


I give up on trying to explain common sense to you.  You either have it, or you don't.   ONCE AGAIN, .... the public school would not allow even the mention of Jesus Christ in, or around their property....breaking the rule would get you punished in one form or another.

On the other hand, they purposefully invited these Islam missionaries to do their best in convincing the children to seek out a relationship with "Allah".

Now, .... I will repeat in the most simplest of terms for you, Dale Walker, and the Kool-Aid® Gang......

Jesus Christ = BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Allah, and Muhammad = GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am seriously thinking that your tale about qualifying for Mensa is a big joke..... Your "150 something IQ is probably closer to the length of your **bleep** in centimeters. (if that)

I do not hate things that are non-American, however, I hate anything that is ANTI-American....including a majority of the socialist in this country that vote for the demoncRATS.

(BTW, I fixed your spelling for ya.)

Re: Once, Again.....


@acfarmer wrote:

You say they were trying to teach them a different religion and culture, Fine but make sure they study all religions then. I doubt they will do that . I thought religion of all kinds was to be left out of the public schools? I might be wrong.


Indianola Schools.......

Jesus Christ = BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Allah and Muhammad = Good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Christmas Celebrations = Verboten!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Inviting to school Muslim missionaries? = Absolutely, and often!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Allowing the Gideon folks to hand out those little New Testaments? = NEVER, EVER!