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Red Steele
Veteran Advisor

Why we don't sell out and move .

Michael Barone lays out the shifting sands of US electoral politics and how what we have is not what we will have.

 

Jr. got 11.5 million MORE votes in 2004 than he did in 2000, and Karl Rove declares a permanent Republican majority.

 

Bambi gets 6.8 million LESS votes in 2012 than he did in 2008 and the libs are ready to declare a permanent Liberal

majority.

 

It's all dust in the wind.

 

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/338931/republican-annihilation-not-likely-michael-barone

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BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Why we don't sell out and move .

Rubio was on the Limbaugh Show this afternoon and God Bless him, he answered rush`s tough questions and can remain optimistic.  Rubio has his work cut out for himself, he has to hold the country together and appeal to hardliners like me.  I`ll just say flat out, I`m not convinced that we will have a country left by 2016 and I could tell even though Rush is gracious, he isn`t hopefull deep down either. I think Repubs may get some wins in 2014 because of this hard left turn by 0bama, that may shake lose some of the "3rd party" folks and after they had the crap scared out of them may jion the "lesser evil" crowd and vote Repub in droves...is that a good thing in regards if there is a 2016 prez election?   Only if the Repubs play it right, 0bama might use a "Repub majority" in his last 2 yrs as a scape goat for the mess that he inherited from himself. 

Red Steele
Veteran Advisor

Re: Why we don't sell out and move .

BA, I posted this in another thread, but it bears repeating....the Republicans must have the 53% paying taxes align themselves with the conservative movement, and must fight, tooth and nail to NOT have anymore Americans quit paying taxes....it is what the liberals want...to be like ancient Rome with the welfare lifestyle, and taxes on the rich until it all falls apart...how else would you expain any of what we have? We have a mass of voters in America that actually dont see personal success as an option.

 

Note that the war is not between the easily caricatured 1 percent, who pay almost 40 percent of aggregate federal income taxes, and the put-upon 99 percent; rather, it is a far more messy fight between the struggling 53 percent who pay income tax and mostly do not receive food stamps, unemployment insurance, or disability coverage, and the 47 percent who do not pay income tax and are more likely to receive state and federal assistance.

 

 

GreaTOne_65
Senior Contributor

Re: Why we don't sell out and move .

As long as you all, are in the woe is us state of mind, you might as well hear some more bad news. The Democrats will, with the way the Guns Over People party's going in the House, it's over for them in '14. The Obama campaign machine is and will still be in full operation.

 

Now, for the coup de gras? Hilliary, will run in '16! So, Rove's thousand year Reich, will now become a fleeting dream.

 

Sleep well, my friends!

Red Steele
Veteran Advisor

Re: Why we don't sell out and move .

Goat, just out of curiousity, are you one of the 47%?

 

THat would explain a lot.

hardnox604008
Advisor

Re: Why we don't sell out and move .

I'm thinking that '12 might have been the optimium time to cash out into nice greenbacks, pay the lowest capital gains there is likely to ever be and move to sunny Paraguay where a proud 200 year tradition of honoring property rights reigns- before the libs really take power and give your farm back to the Sioux.

 

 

 

Red Steele
Veteran Advisor

For Nox, Bruce, and Shifty...

http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2003819509_indiahomes03.htmlSince you guys are so nice to suggest that the Steeles, highly productive members of American society, move to a foreign land, I just thought I would return the favor and show you how your children can be ingenious and take care of you in your advanced years, and still bank part of your social security checks, even if those danmeed republicans reduce them.

 

And Nox, just because some BTO rented away the land you thought was yours, don't take it out on me. I had nothing to do with that transaction. Twenty years ago, farm management specialists were warning farmers to get a lock on the land they wanted to farm, and it was very good advice.

bruce MN
Advisor

Re: Why we don't sell out and move .

In this post you actually do a a rather sufficient job of refuting what you pose in the post at the head of the thread.

 

It's an entirely new demographic paradigm.  What kills the message is the massive increase in the number of people who are in that rough 53% who do pay income taxes and will continue to who have a deep interest, vested to various degrees and more often than not biological, in others who would like to pay income taxes but aren't and don't have great prospects for doing so soon.  That is something that is grossly "misunderestimated" (cr: GWB) and will drive politics and elections for longer than the ordinary cycle that you cite.

 

 

bruce MN
Advisor

Re: For Nox, Bruce, and Shifty...

Jealously can come from many directions.  The term has a long literary history that has, like so many others, been condensed and slotted into a popular defintion.

 

Your obvious need to confidenlty presume what nox's emotions and motives are takes the seal off of that one.

hardnox604008
Advisor

Re: For Nox, Bruce, and Shifty...

Call it what you like but here's how I read it

 

Government tips the table and pours the whole pot into the laps of landowners and grain farmers who it has supported generously for several generations=capitalism.

 

Everything else=socialism.

 

I'll immediately regret any openness an honesty displayed here but yes, I do have some bad feelings about de gummint bailing people out in the 80s, saying they weren't going to do that any more in the 90s but then doubling down when things got the littlest bit tough and then passing an ethanol bill with totally unrealistic volumes and timelines that almost ensures global grain shortages as far as the eye can see.

 

All of which I live with pretty well until the beneficiaries start beeyatching about de gummint.