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Packard27
Senior Contributor

Re: Will Paul Ryan get "Cantorized"?

Not that it greatly matters, but if anyone has an idle need this year to create some mischief among the Republican establishment in particular and the entire "Washington DC/Wall Street Patriot Class" in particular, here is where you can send your check to play the game:

 

Paul Nehlen for Congress (1st Wisconsin Congressional District)

1112 56th St.

Kenosha, WI 5310 

 

Just because you cannot vote Paul Ryan and those of his ilk out of office this year does not mean you cannot put down some real skin to help those who will. Good luck and have fun.

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Will Paul Ryan get "Cantorized"?

Well, Ryan assuming that he`s a conservative party man, can see all the boxes on pro-life and 2nd amendment and lower taxes and strong military that donald Trump checks and Hillary leaves blank....there isn`t a contest.  Oh if he likes Mexicans and sending factories overseas, he might have some hoops to jump through.   But I`ve jumped through hoops for these establishment GOP types...George W Bush...Mccain....Romney.  Isn`t about time THEY jump through one ficken hoop for me???

 

In my opinion, Ryan will endorse Trump, it will mean more if he drags his feet a bit, if Ryan had immediately endorsed Trump it would be less effective...like a gal giving it up on the first date.

 

What will happen if/"when" Trump loses in November?....well you and Nox probably believe that all the Trump supporters will sign up fo the klu klux klan...a few might, I dunno.  Many of us will lose faith in America and the electorate.

 

I think the better question is:  What will the liberals do further to America if Hillary wins, retakes the senate and maybe picks up a few house seats????   Unless you are a crazy nuts liberal, that is something to think about stopping albeit temporarily by voting a straight Republican ticket....you can always go back to destroying America in the 2018 and 2020 elections.

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Nehlan bio

Whoa! That is one righteous dude!  Against the TPP and all...Respect!   You know even if incumbent Ryan kisses and makes up, I`d have to say Wisconsinites really ought to consider Nehlan.

OKdon
Senior Contributor

Re: Wisconsin will not reject Paul Ryan

Especially if Trump and Palin are involved. When one of the locales advance to a position of authority such as Ryan has done, usually they gain a lot of public support from ther electorate unless they have commited some unpardonable sin. RejectingTrump is not an unpardonable sin because Trump won't even win a popularity contest in Wisconsin.

schnurrbart
Veteran Advisor

Re: Will Paul Ryan get "Cantorized"?

Her endorsement is a killer for a normal good person!  She only inspires the ratbags and the horny farmers!!!

r3020
Senior Advisor

Re: Wisconsin will not reject Paul Ryan

Paul Ryan needs to explain to his voters why they should send him back to Washington after we have added 1 trillion dollars to the national debt in 6 months after Barack Obama signed his budget deal. If he can't do that to their satisfaction he needs to be replaced. May be his voters like all the free stuff he hands to them.

bruce MN
Advisor

Had a little driving time...

....to think about what's going on here.  One thing that kept coming to mind was an image of Ryan talking to himself and saying "Screw it.".

 

Nothing for him to either gain or loose.  While the media and the party leadership have done all that they could to paint him as a moderate choice for party leadership he is in fact a hard wired radical.

 

Ryan is deep into fruitcake Ayn Rand, Hayek, Austrian economic theory.  Left over sludge from pre-2nd World War where everything that moved or wiggled went through aristocratic channels, with all currency tied to metals and very little latitude for anyone to upgrade their station outside of the leave of those who controlled those resources.  The perfect system if your economy was built around and on things like slavery and serfdom.

 

With Trump, an unapologetic debt capitalist and Hillary, a sure bet not to look to overhaul the basic elements of finance and banking as the two options what difference could it make to him?  The vanishing old guard in the Republican Party has been very good to him, elevating him to the 3rd highest office in the land.  The sketchy Republicanism of Donald Trump had nothing to do with that.  He was put in place as Speaker by the "neverTrump" clan. 

 

He he may well endorse at some point.  But not until having exhausted every possibility to make his.

r3020
Senior Advisor

Re: Had a little driving time...

 

 Patrick J. Buchanan

 

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Forty-eight hours after Donald Trump wrapped up the Republican nomination with a smashing victory in the Indiana primary, House Speaker Paul Ryan announced that he could not yet support Trump.

In millennial teen-talk, Ryan told CNN’s Jake Tapper, “I’m just not ready to do that at this point. I’m not there right now.”

“[T]he bulk of the burden of unifying the party” falls on Trump, added Ryan. Trump must unify “all wings of the Republican Party, and the conservative movement.” Trump must run a campaign that we can “be proud to support and proud to be a part of.”

Then, maybe, our Hamlet of the House can be persuaded to support the elected nominee of his own party.

Excuse me, but upon what meat has this our Caesar fed?

Ryan is a congressman from Wisconsin. He has never won a statewide election. As number two on Mitt Romney’s ticket, he got waxed by Joe Biden. He was compromise choice as speaker, only after John Boehner went into in his Brer Rabbit “Zip-a-dee-doo-dah” routine.

Who made Ryan the conscience of conservatism?

Who made Ryan keeper of the keys of true Republicanism?

Trump “inherits something … that’s very special to a lot of us,” said Ryan, “the party of Lincoln and Reagan and Jack Kemp.”

But Trump did not “inherit” anything. He won the nomination of the Republican Party in an epic battle in the most wide-open race ever, in which Trump generated the largest turnout and greatest vote totals in the history of Republican primaries.

What is Ryan up to?

He is pandering to the Trump-hating Beltway media and claiming the leadership of a Republican establishment routed and repudiated in the primaries, not only by that half of the party that voted for Trump, but also by that huge slice of the party that voted for Ted Cruz.

The hubris here astonishes. A Republican establishment that has been beaten as badly as Carthage in the Third Punic War is now making demands on Scipio Africanus and the victorious Romans.

This is difficult to absorb.

Someone should instruct Paul Ryan that losers do not make demands. They make requests. They make pleas.

What makes Ryan’s demands more astonishing is that he is the designated chairman of the Republican National Convention, a majority of whose delegates and whose nomination Trump is about to win.

Ryan is saying he is ambivalent over whether he will accept the verdict of the Cleveland convention — of which he is the chairman.

If Ryan holds to his refusal to accept the decision of the Republican majority in the primaries, he should be removed from that role. And if Ryan does not come out of Thursday’s meeting with the Donald, endorsing him, the presumptive nominee should turn to Paul Ryan, and, in two words, tell him, “You’re fired!”

Trump cannot allow the establishment to claw back in the cloakrooms of Capitol Hill what he won on a political battlefield. He cannot allow a discredited establishment to dictate the issues he may run on.

That would be a betrayal of the troops who brought Trump victory after victory in the primaries.

To longtime students of politics, there is rarely anything new under the sun. And there is precedent for the shakedown Ryan and his Beltway collaborators are trying to do to Trump.

Paul Ryan is the Nelson Rockefeller of his generation.

In 1960, Gov. Rockefeller refused to challenge Vice President Nixon in the primaries. When Nixon went to Rockefeller’s New York apartment to persuade him to join the ticket, Rocky refused, but demanded concessions in the platform, to which Nixon acceded.

The Chicago convention, a Nixon convention, believed itself betrayed by the “Pact of Fifth Avenue.”

Only the appearance of Sen. Barry Goldwater at the podium to tell conservatives to “grow up. We can take this party back,” halted a suicidal drive to take the nomination away from Nixon.

After Goldwater won the nomination in the 1964 California primary by defeating Rockefeller, Rocky arrived at the San Francisco convention to demand that a plank equating the John Birch Society with the Communist Party and Ku Klux Klan be written into Goldwater’s platform. Hooted and rejected, Rocky went home and refused to endorse the nominee, who went down to a crushing defeat by LBJ.

Nixon, a party loyalist, campaigned across the country for Barry and his doomed party.

In 1968, Nixon got his reward, the nomination, with Goldwater’s support. And Govs. Rockefeller and George Romney, who had done the Paul Ryan thing, never came close.

Rockefeller got what he deserved when the Reaganite heirs of Barry Goldwater, at Kansas City in 1976, demanded the dumping of Rocky from President Ford’s ticket. And they got it.

Paul Ryan, in declaring that he cannot now support Trump, and imposing conditions to earn his support, has crawled out on a long limb.

Trump cannot capitulate. He has to saw it off.

This is one Private Ryan we cannot save.

 

http://buchanan.org/blog/promoted-private-ryan-125221

bruce MN
Advisor

Re: Had a little driving time...

Essentially fits with what I said.  And how did Goldwater do again?

 

The clock clicks differently know than it did then.. Multiple media sources and Internet air everything out.  Ryan knows there will never be a slot for someone with his stripes.  Very likely kicking himself for ever taking either of those 2 spots the old guard conservatives jammed him in to.