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Husker-J
Senior Contributor

Re: Willful ignorance

Does it not bother you in the teeniest, tiniest way, that the administration made sure there were enough brand new 'closed because of government shutdown' signs to go around everywhere, enough barricades to block off war memorials (that are open air, and basically built right along a sidewalk), and traffic cones to block off scenic overlooks and the pull-offs where people could view Mt. Rushmore, and find the money to pay people to patrol all those areas to enforce the closures?   All this at a time when they saw a real budget crunch coming, they made sure all the above was taken care of, as well as new artwork to decorate Federal offices (money appropriated on the last day before the shutdown), but let things like the Amber Alert website, broadcasting NOAA severe weather warnings, and paying death benefits for soldiers, were somehow not high enough on the priority list to continue,    I, for one, am not all that happy at the way the administration prioritized the limited resources that they had.

One other thought, some of the furloughed workers collected unemployment, and will also get back pay.   I wonder how much that will wind up costing.

schnurrbart
Veteran Advisor

Re: Willful ignorance

Exactly what is the "17% govt"? I figure that the real bad guys here are the tea party and not Obama! They were trying to make a point only and they had tried to make that point 40 times before. If they had not been cheap, petty, arrogant A-holes, the memorial would not have been closed. When the govt has to shut down, tourists are NOT real high on the essential list. SORRY but that is the way it is. I don't worry about the veterans because they were allowed to go in and swap lies and remember at their memorial. Now, blow up to all your rightwing hyperventilating because I said I didn't worry about the veterans.
Husker-J
Senior Contributor

Re: Willful ignorance

Sounds like the part of the Ed Shultz show I watched the other day. Opinion dressed up to look like fact.  Happens all the time in politics, and from all directions.  
Doesn't make it right, though.

Husker-J
Senior Contributor

More willful ignorance - it happens both ways

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2013/10/04/apparently-too-good-check-reason-reports-chad-hen...

 

The coverage of Chad Henderson has been massive. He was featured in The Washington Post Thursday as “the Obamacare enrollee that tons of reporters are calling.” He was also profiled in The Huffington Post as someone who “beat the glitches to sign up for Obamacare.” He was interviewed by Politico, multiple local news organizations, and, according to his Facebook feed, was asked to be part of a conference call hosted by the Department of Health and Human Services.

Chad's story was tweeted out by the official Obamacare Twitter feed.  It was promoted to the media by Enroll America, a health-care activist group headed by a former White House communications staffer, as a sign of Obamacare’s success.

... Henderson’s story was promoted as proof that the new health law can work for individuals. That was exactly how Chad intended it. He was a volunteer with President Obama’s campaign last year, and his LinkedIn page still lists him as an active volunteer with Organizing for Action, the former campaign organization which now advocates for the president’s legislative agenda.

... Bill Henderson told me that both he and his son were interested in getting coverage, but that he had not enrolled in any plan yet, and to his knowledge, neither had his son. He also said that when they do enroll, getting the most coverage for the least money would be the goal, and that he expects that he and his son will get coverage under the same plan.

... Other details from Chad’s story were also difficult to verify. He said his premium was unsubsidized, and cost around $175 a month for the cheapest Bronze coverage plan available. He told the Chattanooga Times Free Press that he got his coverage through Blue Cross Blue Shield. But the cheapest unsubsidized Bronze exchange plan at Blue Cross Blue Shield’s online Quick Quote system offers for a 21-year-old in Flintstone, Georgia is $225.09 a month.

 
 
schnurrbart
Veteran Advisor

Re: Letter from Union Leader

I truly don't understand what the govt could do in the case of an employer cutting hours to make more people ineligible for their health plans other than mandate that any people on the payroll at the time this went into effect at the time of the bill passing could not have their hours cut. THEN y'all would be screaming that Obama is a commie basterd/socialist pig for telling business what they can and cannot do with their own business. Did hoffa and the others offer offer any kind of solution that they would be in favor of? NO!!!! They just said "fix it!" The old saying is "if you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem."
schnurrbart
Veteran Advisor

Re: Willful ignorance

Absolutely not! Didn't even hint that it was right. However, recent history(10-15yrs) shows that Fox News appears to be guilty of it more than any other media---except maybe the internet!
NewAgJudge
Senior Contributor

Re: Willful ignorance

 

God love ya , but I dont know why you waste your time with these Ignorant bastards.

schnurrbart
Veteran Advisor

Re: More willful ignorance - it happens both ways

That could very well be true but I have not checked to see what rates really are because I don't need to due to good fortunate luck. However, everything I have read and heard from the right is that premiums are running upwards of $15000-$20000/year. Georgia appears to offer insurance for under $3000/yr!
Husker-J
Senior Contributor

Re: Letter from Union Leader

I put that up, in reply to your post, where you said that you didn't know the specifics of why a union might be against Obamacare.   I think the letter from Hoffa gives some.

 

Mandating how many hours a week a business had to hire workers for, would pretty much be the death knell for any hopes of a resurrection of the manufacturing industry in this country, as well as many others.

 

Husker-J
Senior Contributor

Re: More willful ignorance - it happens both ways

That's odd, I haven't heard any references to rates going up $15-$20k per year.

Any links to that?