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jennys_mn
Veteran Advisor

Yes - What A Bunch Of Idiots.....

Can you cult members tell me why, everything with Trump, has to be a lie.  Let's just choose a couple of topics.

The first - Since BA wants America to pay MORE taxes on everything that is imported from China:

Why does Trump keep insisting that China is paying the tariffs, when that is totally a lie?

Why does Trump keep insisting, that his Administration has CV19 "In Control". when that is also totally a lie?

What is it with you Cult members, that allows you to continue going through life protecting this liar of a president, when it is so obvious that the man has no clue anymore what he is doing.  America is suffering, and Trump just keeps on lying.  You think THIS IS THE WAY A PRESIDENT SHOULD BE RUNNING THIS COUNTRY?

And you guys think Trump is going to win the next election?  Surly, you have got to be kidding, just like Trump's handlers  trying to cover his last joke.... only for him to come out an hour later, and say he, "Doesn't joke"......

OH YEAH.....PEOPLE OF AMERICA JUST LOVE TO BE LIED TO.....SURE TRUMP, SURE....TELL US ANOTHER LIE...

REPUBLICANS CAN'T WIN AN ELECTION, WITHOUT LYING....

JEN

 

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sam1wiseone
Senior Contributor

Re: Yes - What A Bunch Of Idiots.....

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Yes - What A Bunch Of Idiots.....

How the hell damned dumb are you anyway Jen?  Okay to manufacture a shirt paying workers a Living Wage, providing a SAFE work environment and not polluting it would cost $15/per shirt.   To produce that shirt in the United States it would cost $15.

To produce that shirt in China with slave labor, unsafe work space and hazardous waste dumped in the local river and spewn into the atmosphere, it would cost $2 per shirt (it would wear out after the 3rd washing, but I digress).  Multinational corporations would sell that shirt to US consumers for $5 per shirt and pocket the $3/shirt profit off of slave labor.

But no matter how you cut it, it costs $15 to produce the damned shirt!  If we continue the Chinese slave labor route as we have the last 30+ years, there are going to be Americans only able to find $10/hr Quickee Mart employment.  Quickee Mart was not intended to provide Living Wage jobs.  Quickee Mart jobs are for high school kids to learn to work and make a few dollars to put gas in the jalopy and take Betty to the drive in Saturday night...not for a single mother of 3 to put food on the table.

The non-Living Wage job does not earn enough that income taxes will be owed.  $10/hr and you qualify for $30,000/year in welfare and guess who is given THAT bill due every April 15th or quarterly???  No, this country has to move in the direction of helping everyone achieve a gainful employment job.

And yes, if there are 2 shirts in Walmart, one foreigner for $5 and a US made shirt for $15, people will cut their own throats buying the $5 shirt every time and if you make $10/hr it`s the matter of hardly affording the $5 one let alone even looking at the $15 one.

sdholloway56
Senior Advisor

Re: Yes - What A Bunch Of Idiots.....

Speaking of which, a lot of manufacturing is going to be reshored, in a lot of places.

But particularly in high wage places like the US, we'll still be lucky if we have as many manufacturing jobs in 10 years as we had in Feb. Although the jobs produced by automation will be relatively good ones, requiring skills.

Also got stuff like truck driving that is going to start to go away, which has been a solid option for lower skilled workers.

We can offset that with infrastructure spending, green energy etc. should we choose to.

Having spent a few $T to keep the old economy solvent before this is done, probably not a reason to oppose that except by those who will because they don't have anything better to do.

BTW, I assume that except for people who just like to drive tractors and are willing to pay for the pleasure, crop work can already be done better and more efficiently with 24 hr semi-autonomous systems.

 

 

jennys_mn
Veteran Advisor

Re: Yes - What A Bunch Of Idiots.....

 

LEARN TO READ!!!!   I DIDN'T ASK HOW MUCH OUR GOVERNMENT WAS SCREWING AMERICANS WITH THE "CHINESE" TARIFFS....

I ASKED:

Why does Trump keep insisting that China is paying the tariffs, when that is totally a lie?

THAT WAS THE QUESTION - BUT - YOU PREFER NOT TO ANSWER THAT - ISN'T THAT RIGHT???

 

REPUBLICANS CAN'T WIN AN ELECTION, WITHOUT LYING....

JEN

sdholloway56
Senior Advisor

Re: Yes - What A Bunch Of Idiots.....

The tariffs are a pretty regressive tax on consumers, which Republicans generally prefer. States they control are generally heavy on sales tax, light on income taxes and generally not progressive on those at all.

All about them makers gettin' it back from the takers.

Of course then we get around to the matter of the GOP federal tax cuts failure to achieve any of the stated objectives. Which everybody knew would be the case, except for the wink and nod.

 

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Yes - What A Bunch Of Idiots.....

Jen wrote:"Why does Trump keep insisting that China is paying the tariffs, when that is totally a lie?"

 

I don`t give a flying F-word what "Trump said" ...I`m saying tariffs are a way of balancing trade imbalances and recouping our loss in Gross Domestic Product and a good & necessary tool. 

All I`ll say about Trump is he is the only POTUS with the guts to do the corrective measures to fix the mess started by Ronald reagan if we want to be honest.

sam1wiseone
Senior Contributor

Re: Yes - What A Bunch Of Idiots.....

 

The most regressive tarrif of all is regulation arbitrage.

sdholloway56
Senior Advisor

Re: Yes - What A Bunch Of Idiots.....

Only got a hammer, pound that nail.

$500B trade deficits in a $20T economy are an issue to be addressed but they're not the central one. And that's probably not even a very accurate statistic- a lot of low value assembly get booked far beyond the actual.

Not that Trump ever cared in the least but it resonated with the demo he was pitching to.

Anyway, if you'd like to quit shooting 5 feet behind the duck, the next problem and opportunity is automation.

 

jennys_mn
Veteran Advisor

Re: Yes - What A Bunch Of Idiots.....


@BA Deere wrote:

How the hell damned dumb are you anyway Jen?  Okay to manufacture a shirt paying workers a Living Wage, providing a SAFE work environment and not polluting it would cost $15/per shirt.   To produce that shirt in the United States it would cost $15.

 


The real question is:  How damned dumb are you BA, when the question had NOTHING to do with the price of a shirt.  The Question is:

Why does Trump keep insisting that China is paying the tariffs, when that is totally a lie?

And, the next question is:  How damned dumb are you BA, to tell fellow farmers, "It's just the damn flu!", when you, nor your PINO, had no idea what the virus was capable of that you was so sure, was "Just the damn flu!!"  Talk about being dumb.....and responsible for thousands of lives.  

You guys accused Hillary of a couple of deaths, and what a big deal it was.  Now, you're responsible for thousands fo deaths, without even having to have a conspiracy theory to associate you to them.... 

And - you're still keeping up the lies....

 

Republicans can't win an election, without lying....

Jen