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Milligan Hay - Iowa d:^)
Veteran Advisor

Re: You will love this.


@gough whitlam wrote:

Written by Mike Carlton from the Sydney morning herald.

 

One of my new year's resolutions was to ignore the Republican primaries in the United States, but I have broken it already.

They have a horrible, irresistible fascination, not unlike watching a funnel web spider crawling across your lounge-room carpet. All those spray-on tans, those spray-on first names - Mitt, Newt, Rick, Ron - and worse, those spray-on opinions confected out there on the lunar right. These people have spun so far off any rational policy axis that they make George W. Bush look like a Roosevelt liberal.

Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts governor, is the most worrying, if only because he's likely to be the winner to go up against Barack Obama. He made his multimillions as a rip'n'gouge venture capitalist, or whatever the buzz phrase is these days, preying on the carcasses of struggling companies and turning fat profits by the traditional method of sacking half the workforce and flogging off the bare bones of what was left.


The rank and file socialists sure seem to be shaking in their boots over the rise of the Conservative movement.  Sure as the sunrise, it is coming.  It is like a huge snow avalanche.  It has been building for years and years, the edges are slipping and the entire slope is about to come crashing down upon the heads of those whom built it.  Revolutions are seldom pretty, but they are very effective in conducting true change.

 

(I cut you some slack on pointing out your spelling..... see, I am a nice guy Smiley Happy )

r3020
Senior Advisor

Re: Hey 3020


@KNAPPer wrote:

You remind me of an interesting question. Bear in mind, this could apply to any president/candidate, so try and broaden your mind beyind Obama:

 

Question: Is there a line or area that we shouldn't go into a candidate's history? And is there a limit for how far back to go?

 

I hope also that the answer is not something like "It's just the media" because we are the consumers of the media and the people who love to hear what they dig up.


They should all be treated and vetted the same.

KNAPPer
Senior Contributor

Re: Hey 3020

You didn't answer the question, but I will draft from your reply that you believe there are no limits as long as we pry equally deeply into every candidate. I guess you thoght I was baiting you.

johnaa
Advisor

Re: Hey 3020

  I believe the most important things to look at is who are his advisors, his $upporters, in other words who has their strings attached.    Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the media has the sheeple's attention diverted to some gossipy subjects. 

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Hey 3020

With the internet, I don`t see how there can be any secrets anymore.  It`s up to the individual voter as to if they`ll accept the "birth certificate" or the "open marriage" explainations.  The culture will pretty much accept and forgive anything, it`s always the coverup that gets `em.  Herman Cain had said from the git go "I like white women and there`s been alot of `em"  he`d probably be the front runner today.  Newt turned the tables on the newsman that questioned him and added 20 points to his poll numbers, people like a fighter that`s all I can figger.  That all said if I knew that all it would take for Newt to win against Obama would be me writing his campaign a check for $10,000...I`d do it, I could ill afford it but this election is the proverbial fork in the road.  $10,000 now to have 4 years of freedom that we may never see again would be worth many times more and Newt is my least favorite Repub in the running.

wehav
Senior Contributor

Knapper

I have a high school friend that buys and sells houses. He has a self directed IRA and uses that money to buy the houses then fixes them up and sells them at substantial profits.  He's an apolitical guy and probably never votes.  Probably never has.  However because he makes quite large profits on his IRA none of it is taxable. 

Most Americans are either ignorant or lazy when it comes to making money.  They figure if they show up at the job site that's sufficient.  No doubt a condition created by our public school system where by you show up and you graduate just like the kid that get's straight A's.  Then you or they complain about those who put in the extra effort and time rather than watching American Idol.

 

"The Romneys' investments in funds established in the Cayman Islands are taxed in the very same way they would be if the Romneys held their shares of the fund investments directly in the US rather than through a Cayman fund.

Nothing is changed from four years ago in relation to these funds. Governor and Mrs. Romney's assets are managed on a blind basis. They do not control the investment of these assets. The assets are under the control and overall management of an independent trustee.

Furthermore, only the sponsor of the fund decides where it is established. That responsibility is totally outside the control of a passive investor like Gov. Romney or the trustee of this blind trust.

Also, in regards to the Unrelated Business Income Tax: Governor Romney’s IRA is tax deferred, just like the IRA’s of every other American. Its investments are in compliance with rules created to keep it tax deferred, just like it was intended to be."

bruce MN
Advisor

Re: Hey 3020

Stephen Colbert said in MorningJoe a couple af days ago regarding teh question to Newt about his open marriage proposal to his wife that just about everyone in politics screws around on their wife and at least Newt had the decency to ask first.

r3020
Senior Advisor

Re: Hey 3020

What about you Knapp? What, if anything, should be off limits?

Hawken Cougar
Senior Contributor

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KNAPPer
Senior Contributor

Re: Hey 3020

Religion to a degree. Family and children to a degree. Weight and looks. Eating habits. Some medical issues. Not much really. It's easier to define it on a case by case basis because you never know what is going to come up, but you know something that is barking up the wrong tree when you hear it. We need to pay more attention to a candidate's politics than their persoal life. That goes for Newt too IMHO. Most of what I need to know about a candidate comes from their platform, speeches, voting record, bill sponsorships and campaign contributors. As for money, you made a point above, but I think their tax returns may be our business since most all of them have to release them and we don't want people who cheat on taxes in charge. There's proobably more I am forgetting about.