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sam1wiseone
Senior Contributor

a clue to

How badly democrats want to hose Americans are in these numbers from GM sales:

sold 582,401 vehicles in the United States in the second quarter of 2022......

Electric vehicle sales were over 7,300 units,

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KNAPPer
Senior Contributor

a better clue

Don't ignore the history of changes and public interest in methods of travel:

"...the great obstacle to the development of the automobile was the lack of public interest. To advocate replacing the horse, which had served man through centuries, marked one as an imbecile."

https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2017/01/get-horse-americas-skepticism-toward-first-automobiles/

sam1wiseone
Senior Contributor

Re: a better clue

Oh thats right, I think I remember from fairy tale class that the government made hay production very expensive and difficult to get so people would change over to the I.C.E. 

Electric cars will take over, great idea, but it isnt there yet technology wise.    It's not there yet infrastructure wise.    And most importantly we are nowhere near the electric production to run all those cars and until progs accept that that power will have to come from coal or nuclear power we never will be.  When it makes sense you won't need the government to force people to use it.

 

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Yes.  Infrastructure needed.  Just need to wait for that magic moment when God puts it all in place like she did the roads, bridges, runways, sewers etc. etc.  

Of course after it’s in place there will still be peckerheads insisting that they along with some other benevolent white guys had built it.

sdholloway56
Esteemed Advisor

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Mule Ranch Sammy knows all!!!!

sam1wiseone
Senior Contributor

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Sure Bruce, cause your god built gas stations.

r3020
Senior Advisor

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It was simple Knapper, the government taxed new harness makers out of existence. Right? That's how it wasn't it? Market had nothing to do with it did it?

KNAPPer
Senior Contributor

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Nope, you are wrong. That's not what happened.

You forget your own track record on toilet fixtures and LED lights.

r3020
Senior Advisor

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Oh. You mean it happened with out government mandates.

rickgthf
Senior Advisor

Re: Oh, jeez, " government made hay expensive"

  The government didn't have to make hay expensive, in the late 1800s, an estimated half the agricultural production of the US was dedicated to the production of feed & fodder for horses, for work & transportation.  As the population increased it was obvious the need for animal feed would outstrip food production.

As for electricity production for transportation, you should talk about things you obviously don't know anything about it.  The average light passenger vehicle, passenger cars & light trucks average about 14,000 miles per year. Everything I've seen indicates a mileage of about 4 miles per kWh or 3500 kWh per year.  Given that we have an energy production/ consumption monitoring system for our solar electric system, I can make a good estimate of the energy required for EV and the system production, it's very close to that, 3744 kWh per year, my wife drives a lot.

   It turns out to be just about 1/3 of our solar energy production per year.  Our system is bigger than average because some of our production goes to operating the farm but it's not a large system by any means.  The average rooftop solar system can easily provide the energy needed to supply the average light passenger vehicle.

  If you paired an average rooftop system (or equivalent free-standing system) with every EV there wouldn't be any problem with production capacity.  It would require  $8-9 thousand initial investment (before any subsidies) but would operate for a minimum to 25 years, more like 50 years.  It would just be part of the cost of the house.

14,000 miles for 35 years equals 490,000 miles or 1.6 cents per mile.