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Re: CDC
Yes, Covidiots are telling the truth and the CDC is lying.
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Re: again, no difference
I beg to differ. The subject was "CDC prison study makes it CLEAR fully vaccinated who are exposed are HIGHLY likely to get infected." So asking how many died is part of the same subject. You make me chuckle!
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Re: CDC
Numbers don't lie.
Oh I forgot maff is racist
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Re: again, no difference
Nope, knap.
The subject is the vac does not protect from infection.
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Re: again, no difference
Why do you keep saying that?
No one with any actual knowledge of the situation or responsibility for dealing with it has ever said that it does.
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Re: So, what does this prove? Think about it a minute.
There is nothing magic about the protection afforded by vaccination. You get vaccinated, your body produces antibodies that circulate among your tissues at some level. Then you are challenged by some number of virus particles. Hopefully, you have produced enough antibodies to sequester the viral load long enough for the other mechanisms to clear them before some number can infect some cells and start an infection. With repeated & sustained exposure, it will be a race between antibody production and the viral load.
In the case of this prison setting, you have 233 individuals plus guards living close quarters continuously. We don't know who was infected first but let's suppose an unvaccinated person originated the initial infection and spread it to some number of unvaccinated people. At some point, the viral load in the unit could be astronomical and sustained virtually continuously. It wouldn't be at all surprising for breakthrough infections to occur in this situation.
We already know that there are practical limits to the effectiveness of monoclonal antibody treatments. Antibody treatment after a certain point is ineffective simply because the infection has become too well established. Why shouldn't be the same for the antibodies produced by vaccination?
The failure of the vaccine system in such an extreme and contrived system doesn't mean that in the case of a vaccinated individual being exposed during a brief, less intense contact the vaccine might very well be perfectly effective.
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Re: Knapp, I'll answer for Sam, 'cause he won't.
There were four people hospitalized, three unvaccinated, one vaccinated. The one death was one of the three unvaccinated individuals.
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well baldrick
"Why do you keep saying that?"
The covidians here keep saying that.
Glad you agree, the vax gives no protection from infection.
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Re: well baldrick
the vax gives no protection from infection
It is not magic.
The vaccine can only prepare your body to fend off the virus AFTER you are infected.
Some may not ever get infected enough to show any symptoms before their body defeats it others will show some symptoms but anyone who has some response from the vaccine will be better at fighting off the virus.
Then it depends on how big a dose of virus the individual is exposed to how their defence is able to ramp up to defeat it.
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Re: CDC
@sdholloway56 wrote:
Yes, Covidiots are telling the truth and the CDC is lying.
btw, the study was by the cdc
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/pdfs/mm7038e3-H.pdf
after 4 months the vax provides no protection from infection.
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