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Canuck_2
Senior Contributor

bruce, about reporting on the Van story

I think this article touches on what you were talking about in the post yesterday about how the Van killer in Toronto.

 

http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/toronto-van-attack-the-rush-to-blame-immigrants-and-muslims-after...

 

How weaponized racism is distracting from the real crisis—the lethal mixture of hateful online communities and male violence

In the terrible time between a mass killing and the moment when we learn the name of the killer, people who believe that there are too many Muslims in Canada are quick to share their feelings.

If they work in the media, they are careful about how they express it—posing questions, raising possibilities—but the grass-root bigots don’t have to be coy.

Have a look at the replies to a tweet from Andrew Scheer on Monday afternoon, after the guy drove onto the sidewalk on Yonge Street but before we knew his name.

The commenters didn’t need to know anything about him to know who to blame: Justin Trudeau, Canada’s immigration laws and Muslims.

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rodgersfarms56
Senior Contributor

Re: bruce, about reporting on the Van story

Islam is inherently evil. As long as you all are in denial world wide terrorism will continue. Why can you so readily condemn the kkk (as I do) but not Islam? The kkk as bad as they are does not have a world wide organized effort to kill and mame. Even when the kkk was most active they lynched inwards one at a time, not mass wholesale killings
lnseiler
Senior Contributor

Re: bruce, about reporting on the Van story

Uh, could it be that Islam is a religion and has about 1.8 billion followers world wide and that makes it a bit different from the kkk?
I would say that you’re stereotyping (falsely) when you brand them inherently evil.
Some are terroists as are many people in this country, including white Christians.
r3020
Senior Advisor

Re: bruce, about reporting on the Van story

The good thing about Islamist is they kill mostly muslims. When they wish to kill each other we need to get out of the way.

rodgersfarms56
Senior Contributor

Re: bruce, about reporting on the Van story

Islam is an inherently evil religion. I don’t mean evil in the way Judaism or Buddhism is for spreading false doctrine and denying Christ. I mean evil like Satanism or atheism is. Therefore having a larger following doesn’t make them better. Your logic is terribly flawed
lnseiler
Senior Contributor

Re: bruce, about reporting on the Van story

No, yours is.
Who are you to decide that a whole religion is evil?
Thinking of the crusades, the Spanish conquistadors, European missionaries that killed millions of native peoples all in the name of Christ-maybe they consider your religion evil.
You’re pretty arrogant to pass judgement on almost 2 billion people (the vast
Majority of whom are not terrorists) and compare them to Satan.
You make blanket statements that are based on emotions not facts to fit your religious agenda.
r3020
Senior Advisor

Re: bruce, about reporting on the Van story

The crusades were fought to end the wholesale slaughter of Christians by muslims. Islamist have not evolved from the 7th century.

Canuck_2
Senior Contributor

Re: bruce, about reporting on the Van story

Speaking of flawed logic rodgers..........

You should read the article THEN come back and read your posts.

 

Why do you think Satanism, Judaism, Buddhism and Islam  are evil?

 

If those religions are evil then you should also include all or at least most of the christian religions too.

 

Not sure why you list atheism in there as it is not a recognizable group but rather  just the acknowledgement by an individual that so far they have found no evidence of any of the gods.

 

So what is 'evil' about all those religions?

There are certainly individuals who are bad and could be called evil in ALL religions, regions and societies but there is a far greater % that are good people.

 

Do yourself a favour and read the entire article then think about what the author was saying and then look at what you are posting here.

Using a little logic you might see where you fit.

r3020
Senior Advisor

Re: bruce, about reporting on the Van story

This is hate. This is Louis Farrakhan hate. Keith Elison and Andra Carson need to be questioned if they support this type of hate just as politicians are ask about support of the KKK. This type of hate must be prohibited from entering the country. They must be prohibited from entering the country to protect peaceful muslims just like peaceful Christians and Jews.

 

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An extremist imam used his Friday prayer last week to call on Muslims and Palestinians to disavow non-violent protest against Israel. But the imam was not preaching from the West Bank or Gaza Strip. This imam was yet another spiritual leader espousing radical views from the United States, joining a long list of other U.S.-based Muslim leaders who have promoted anti-Semitism and incited violence against Jews and Israelis.

Mohamed Elbar – an imam at the Islamic Society of Bay Ridge (a.k.a. Masjid Musab) – delivered a sermon in Brooklyn April 13 that amounted to violent incitement.

 

Elbar was not trying to keep this view secret in a private setting of committed individuals. On the contrary, his sermon was live-streamed on the Islamic Society’s official Facebook page, broadcast publicly to its followers and translated by the Investigative Project on Terrorism (IPT). It remained accessible as of this publication.

Elbar reserved harsh criticism for some unidentified imams and preachers who he said issued religious decrees (fatwas) calling for non-violence against Irael. According to the imam, these preachers only advocate direct confrontations if there is symmetry in power.

Too “many imams in our diverse Arab countries” are issuing fatwas that prohibit violent resistance against Israel, he said, “so long as the occupier or the aggressor [Israel] possesses more power than you [Palestinians] possess.”

 

http://thejewishvoice.com/2018/04/25/ipt-exclusive-brooklyn-imam-advocates-violence-israel-anti-semi...

Canuck_2
Senior Contributor

Re: bruce, about reporting on the Van story

Don't stop reading there 3020 because if you don't 'cherry pick' you will find lots of christian god followers to add to the list.

 

https://thehumanist.com/news/religion/5-dangerous-christian-hate-groups

 

As defined by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), a hate group is one that holds “beliefs or practices that attack or malign an entire class of people, typically for their immutable characteristics.” According to the SPLC, there are 939 hate groups currently operating in the United States, many of which are religiously driven.