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buckfarmer
Senior Contributor

Re: comparing school cost

I worry some about the catholic schools. My wife and her two sisters went and seem to have missed a lot of history, science and religion other that theirs. My wife has more of the artistic way of thinking. But they are all very intelligent so I can't figure why they know so little in those subjects.
Democratforlife
Senior Contributor

Re: I don't know Sammy!

It is important to love your job. Not everyone is as greedy as you are. 

Democratforlife
Senior Contributor

Re: I don't know Sammy!

I wonder why that is. 

Nebrfarmr
Veteran Advisor

Re: I don't know Sammy!

Better work environment,

More control over the classroom,

parents that actually appreciate them,

just to name a few.

 

The pay is similar, but they don't get automatic raises every year, and I don't believe they get tenure.   They are not unionized, but just going by memory, they stay at their job longer than the public school teachers do.

Faust100F
Advisor

Re: I don't know Sammy!


@kraft-t wrote:

After hearing the logic spewed on these pages by Catholic posters, I question the value of catholic schools.

 

I have a friend that has a daughter teaching in a catholic schools. Of course she is under paid and financially struggling. She says " but dad I love my job!"   Dad says what the hell does liking your job have to do with it? You aren't being paid enough to live on.


Kraft-t,t,t,t,t

 

I am not Catholic, my wife and kids are.  I can see your point, and it exemplifies what is wrong with education in this country, it is not about the kids it is about the money, and that is all public school teachers and public school supporters think about.

 

I mean . . . at a religious school, your kids would not be able to wear those dumb ass name brand clothes, would not be able to cry to mommy and daddy that the teacher is abusing them, or give them a grade that would make the eligible for more important things like track or football.  

 

The problem is that mental discipline starts early in life, and tends to follow a person throughout their lives.   I will compare the incarceration rate of those who go to public schools (many never graduate) as opposed to those who go to private or religious schools. 

 

You are right about the extra curricular activities . . . I mean . . . maybe these religious school students will not be sitting in a sports bar every weekend wasting their lives. I feel really sorry that little Johnny will not have sports and other activities taking priority over core courses such as math or languages in school.  Whether you realize it or not, school is where you go to learn something so you do not have to live with mom and dad when you grow up.  I mean we sure would not want to give anyone an F in a course would we, it might cause mental trauma, and destroy faux self worth which only comes with success in mastering a subject.    

 

We have a group of teachers in our public school system in Iowa that were dumbed down when they were in school and pass that trait on to their public school pupils, and whine when they only get paid $50K for nine months work.  

 

The religious school teachers may indeed be underpaid, but they will never be knocked out, argued with, or threatened by a students parent or shot by a student . . . they will never have to socialize with those parents who believe that little Johnny is being abused by the decision of the teacher or administrator.  I mean . . . we know in public schools teachers are whipping boys, that is not the case where one pays for the privilege of having a seat in place where education takes priority, and parents can go suck an orange!  

 

You see in religious schools the teachers have the authority . . . not the dumb ass parents . . . who have actually believes teachers exist to be abused and is responsible for educating the the imbecile they chose to bring into this world. 

 

School is not where one goes to play where extracurricular activities should take priority, it is where one goes to learn . . . and that is what is wrong with education in Iowa.  We care more about the welfare of our teachers and those teachers who hide out in our "institutions" of higher learning than we do about teaching students skills. 

 

As far as religious schools not having great athletic teams, you will find that through their scholarship programs, they attract the best athletes to their teams.  Perhaps that is why Dowling in Iowa is usually among the top five football teams in Iowa. 

 

I find it refreshing, that some people who teach in these religious or private schools believe their mission is more important than the money.  I never me a person worth a dam who did something for the money.  Successful people usually do what they like doing.   Adios Amigo. John

kraft-t
Senior Advisor

Re: I don't know Sammy!

All through our capitaslist society, we reward and admire folks that are good at what they do. Teachers on the other hand handle our most precious assets and somehow are expected to do so at substandard pay and with little or no respect.

 

Somehow it is unsightly for them to expect a part of the American dream. They should do so out of the love of children because that is what is expected of them. What! They actually want money and benefits? What self centered jackasses. All they think about is money, when that is what drives most of our economy. Making money and the advantages that money provides.

 

Nope, they are supposed to hold some saintly attitude as do gooders with their only concern being the welfare society and society's children. Frankly I don't get it. I think that we expect something from the teaching profession that is expected from no one else. Complete committment to the task at hand with little reward and less respect.

Red Steele
Veteran Advisor

Re: I don't know Sammy!

something must attract good quality teachers to private schools. a neighbors wife has taught at a catholic school for 30 years, for less money than she would have made at a public school, and she is not even catholic.

 

I don't think she is going to have "self centered jackass" chiseled on her tombstone, either.

 

Not so sure about that shifty donkey guy.

GreaTOne_65
Senior Contributor

Re: I don't know Sammy!

Maybe this will give you a little insight, to what teachers are up against, a little compassion for what they are trying to accomplish might help here too.

 

Breaks my heart.

Samnospam
Advisor

Re: I don't know Sammy!

You see in religious schools the teachers have the authority . . . not the dumb ass parents . . . who have actually believes teachers exist to be abused and is responsible for educating the the imbecile they chose to bring into this world.

 


Then my kids don't belong in religious schools.  With regards to my children I am the boss.   

 

Just  a tip, if you're going to point out dumb asses and imbeciles, use coherent, complete sentences.  

r3020
Senior Advisor

Re: I don't know Sammy!


@Samnospam wrote:

You see in religious schools the teachers have the authority . . . not the dumb ass parents . . . who have actually believes teachers exist to be abused and is responsible for educating the the imbecile they chose to bring into this world.

 


Then my kids don't belong in religious schools.  With regards to my children I am the boss.   

 

Just  a tip, if you're going to point out dumb asses and imbeciles, use coherent, complete sentences.  


Sam, John lives on sarcasm.