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Shaggy98
Senior Advisor

Re: farm programs do NOT bailout farmers.

Anyone know what ever happened to Mike Stamp?  Is he still farming on a smaller scale?

Red Steele
Veteran Advisor

Re: farm programs do NOT bailout farmers.

BA, if you are short a few watts in your lightbulb, it is a whole lot easier to just be an acolyte to someone else, and figure out that they have done the deep thinking for you. Like I said before, a certain type of person gravitates towards worshiping the "big ape" and is subserviant to them in exchange for not having to go out into the jungle and create their own spot.

 

 

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: In a very ironic twist

Smiley Happy    Bruce, I will give you this...that if we cut government spending that may bring on a recession or depression given that we are too far down the Keynesian rabbithole.  I honestly would favor stimulous spending by the government....IF  and that is a big IF, that money MADE IT TO MAINSTREET  and not the crony capitalists that ends up on Wall Street.  Wall Street has multinational companies that expand overseas, why prop up their stock prices? 

 

When you look at those unemployed, it`s absolutely ludacris to think of bringing more people into this country, until everyone at home is taken care of.  See, I`m a progressive, but I`m not a liberal we got this great gig going here where the rest of the world thinks our dollar is so wonderful regardless how much counterfeitting that we do.  Let`s take advantage of the rest of the world`s stupidity for as long as we can!

bruce MN
Advisor

Re: farm programs do NOT bailout farmers.

Yupper, that old  "the man in the arena" thing that used to get pasted up here all of the time by vrious rightos.  Until the coventry decided that TR was taboo becase of his radical "progressivism".  Ha.  What a bunch of dipshlts.

 

BTW Red.  Are you watching the week long Ken Burns series on Kremlin TV that is documenting the Roosevelts?  

 

Lived long in the jungle. Deeper in than you could ever imagine. Came out alive  And holding a spot.

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: farm programs do NOT bailout farmers.

Shaggy, these clowns on AgTalk say he`s working on a pickle farm Smiley Very Happy   i don`t know if you can believe it or not.

 

http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=442453&DisplayType=flat&setCookie=1 

 

 

here`s a AgWeb update, little over a year ago

 

http://www.agweb.com/article/full-circle_fiasco_stamp_farms_update/  

 

 

My experience is Bigshots like that usually fall into a bed of roses.

bruce MN
Advisor

Re: In a very ironic twist

You mean then that the Keynesian and MMT economists were right, as what you say should have happened is exactly what they propossed.  But the Milton Freidman/Alan Greenspan crowd prevailed after the 2008 crisis and it went to the peopleand institutions that you just said shouldn't get it.  Oh, yeah...somehow that was Oama's(came into office 4 months later) fault, as is everything from the weather to the demise of football and, and, and, and (breathlessly) every damned thing!

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: In a very ironic twist

Obama wasn`t a part of the solution, therefore he`s a part of the problem.  Obamacare is a stimulus spending/tax/wealth redistribution scheme that ruined good healthcare plans in order to give everyone a crappy plan.   My idea of stimulus is to rebuild the crumbling infrastructure, bring back manufacturing and good jobs that include healthcare in their pay bennefits.

 

I`m just trying to tell you how to get "a few more miles" out of this broken system.  Any system can work, if you have good honest people  George Washington could be the head of a communist system and it would be BETTER than Obama the head of a capitalist system.  There are just too many crooked lawyers that find loopholes to mess up this system.  I guess the Founding Fathers just assumed that we`d always have decent people in public office....not so.

NewAgJudge
Senior Contributor

Re: In a very ironic twist

 

 

And the original authors of the Farm BIll  didn't think you would run to the trough like a skinny wet nursing sow everytime the wind blew.

 

See BA, they thought Farmers would all be decent - not so.  

 

 

Oh and if you think you are " progressive " , go out and bang your head on the barn 300 times, then come back and try again.

 

 

r3020
Senior Advisor

Re: In a very ironic twist


@bruce MN wrote:

You mean then that the Keynesian and MMT economists were right, as what you say should have happened is exactly what they propossed.  But the Milton Freidman/Alan Greenspan crowd prevailed after the 2008 crisis and it went to the peopleand institutions that you just said shouldn't get it.  Oh, yeah...somehow that was Oama's(came into office 4 months later) fault, as is everything from the weather to the demise of football and, and, and, and (breathlessly) every damned thing!


Are you trying to say the government HASN"T been spending money? How much is enough. How about some private spending on things like O let' s say the Keystone pipeline? Is THAT good for the economy or does it ALL end up in the pockets of the Koch brothers? Good grief man, think for yourself.

rawhide
Advisor

Re: In a very ironic twist

how about "CASH FOR KLUNKERS". That saved GM didn't it? Maybe Probably Iguess......................NOT