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sam1wiseone
Senior Contributor

hey new zealand

Are you willing to do this off and on till the sun goes nova?

https://www.newsweek.com/after-102-covid-free-days-new-zealand-detects-4-new-cases-reimposes-lockdow...

Ardern announced that all of Auckland, the country's most populated city, would be moving to Alert Level 3, New Zealand's second-highest level of coronavirus response measures.

As of noon Wednesday, Auckland residents are asked to remain home except to purchase essentials, such as medicine and food. All non-essential businesses would be closed, including schools, the prime minister said. Traveling into Auckland for non-residents will also be banned. The Level 3 restrictions will last until midnight Friday.

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sdholloway56
Senior Advisor

Re: hey new zealand

I think that's exactly what the science indicates. 

How they ended up avoiding American Carnage.

WCMO
Senior Advisor

Re: hey new zealand

New Zealand had a better chance of success in extermination due to being an island country (natural borders) with around 5 million population  (bigger than LA, smaller than NYC).  If US ports of entry, states with initial cases, and international travel were all immediately locked down, with borders "closed", following by extensive test, trace and quarantine within those borders, it is possible that we could have achieved something similar.  Recognizing that 1st states shut down would likely have been E and W coasts, and their vocal opposition even to initially shutting down some international flights, it would not have been possible.

Americans got on board with "bend the curve" and "slow the spread".   Not so much with continual actions (lack of "normalcy") and fractional (yet additive) losses of freedoms.  The consequent actions to "stop the spread" have therefore met with some resistance, not because the desire is not there, but because of the length of time, etc.

sdholloway56
Senior Advisor

Re: hey new zealand

New Zealanders love their country.

Many Americans love themselves.

Freedom.

r3020
Senior Advisor

Re: hey new zealand

And in Sweden the crisis is over.

sdholloway56
Senior Advisor

Re: hey new zealand

No, but similar to where NY is.

A nation similar to NZ. As culturally different from American Carnage land as you can get.

Personal Responsibility!

sam1wiseone
Senior Contributor

Re: hey new zealand


@r3020 wrote:

And in Sweden the crisis is over.


In New zealand the crisis will never be over.  

Well not really, eventually they'll realize that you can't hide everytime mother nature says boo.  

 

sdholloway56
Senior Advisor

Re: hey new zealand

The gun grabbin’ gal is pretty popular with her constituents.

WCMO
Senior Advisor

Re: hey new zealand

So, with all of their actions in New Zealand, and no cases for 100 days, how is it that they all of a sudden have 6 new cases?  And, if no prior new cases for over 100 days, why is the CDC new-case graph not a flat line?

https://time.com/5824042/new-zealand-coronavirus-elimination/

 

 

sam1wiseone
Senior Contributor

Re: hey new zealand


@WCMO wrote:

So, with all of their actions in New Zealand, and no cases for 100 days, how is it that they all of a sudden have 6 new cases?  And, if no prior new cases for over 100 days, why is the CDC new-case graph not a flat line?

https://time.com/5824042/new-zealand-coronavirus-elimination/

 

 


Standard vaccine development is 10 years.  Governments will have to enforce a liability waiver for something less than that.  If one can be developed.   How long can a country go with no economic activity?   Or economic activity that shuts down every 100 days.  Time will tell.