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Senior Contributor

how many can we lose

with obummers diplomacy-with billary at the helm  it looks like korea will be our next nam ---you have to wonder how many wars can one country lose before it wakes up and with odummer at the helm we are guaranteed another loss

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Re: how many can we lose

You needn't answer this if you like. How many wars which the US engaged in were started under the presidency of a Democrat? Maybe someone else might be able to do it for you if MUM is not there.

Senior Contributor

Re: how many can we lose

and this has what to do with how many we cvan lose

Veteran Advisor

Re: Beginnings of Wars Under Democrats


@gough whitlam wrote:

You needn't answer this if you like. How many wars which the US engaged in were started under the presidency of a Democrat? Maybe someone else might be able to do it for you if MUM is not there.


Wars Started Under Democrats

Here’s a little insight to those that love to paint Republicans as war mongers. Anyone remember that unpopular little war in Southeast Asia called Vietnam? According to wikipedia, John F. Kennedy (D) escalated our involvement in the Vietnam conflict by committing our armed forces to duty for a war in which we were never attacked. Sounds like some familiar talking points huh? By the time the Vietnam War ended, over 8 million servicemen and women had served. EIGHT MILLION. Over 58,000 were killed and nearly 2,000 missing.

Let’s step back a few years to 1917 when Woodrow Wilson (D) declared war on Germany and marked our entrance into World War I. The USA suffered nearly 117,000 casualties. The US homeland was never attacked, but rather some US merchant ships had been attacked in international waters by Germany. Supposedly that was enough for Wilson to declare war after running a no-war policy to get elected.

Onward to World War II. In 1941, Franklin D. Roosevelt (D) declared war on Japan (and rightly so) after Japan bombed Pearl Harbor. So why did we attack Germany, after all – they hadn’t attacked us? The US suffered nearly 417,000 casualties in World War II.

In 1950, Harry S. Truman (D) led the United States into a proxy war against Communist ideals (Soviet Union) via North Korea. The United Nations authorized force under US commanders. Once again, the United States was never attacked and how coincidental that the UN authorized such a measure. The USA lost approximately 390,000 service members in the Korean conflict.

William Jefferson Clinton (D) appointed use of the US military to stop the bloodshed in Yugoslavia which was brokered by NATO. Supposedly there was genocide taking place in Yugoslavia, which was found to be untrue after the war had ended. The USA was never attacked and none of its interests were in jeopardy. Many saw this as a diversion from the Monica Lewinsky scandal to dominate the news cycle. I’d also like to throw in this tidbit for our beloved Human Shield, Sean Penn of Hollywood. President Clinton, “Together we must also confront the new hazards of chemical and biological weapons, and the outlaw states, terrorists and organized criminals seeking to acquire them. Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade, and much of his nation’s wealth, not on providing for the Iraqi people, but on developing nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them. The United Nations weapons inspectors have done a truly remarkable job, finding and destroying more of Iraq’s arsenal than was destroyed during the entire gulf war. Now, Saddam Hussein wants to stop them from completing their mission. I know I speak for everyone in this chamber, Republicans and Democrats, when I say to Saddam Hussein, “You cannot defy the will of the world,” and when I say to him, “You have used weapons of mass destruction before; we are determined to deny you the capacity to use them again.” Even Al Gore (D) as Senator ridiculed George H. W. Bush for not taking out Saddam in Operation Desert Storm. Yes, that’s the same guy that called us going into Iraq a miscalculated blunder by George Bush.

The President’s job above all else is to protect the American people, but I guess that’s only true if you’re a Democrat President? High ranking US Senators and Representatives all saw the same intelligence that the President saw and the majority of them voted for the war. Saddam Hussein broke one UN resolution after another with no penalty from the UN and committed PROVEN genocide among his people where he DID have WMDs where he gassed his own people. Where’s the outrage from bleeding heart compassionate liberals? Where’s the outrage when Saddam’s sons both marveled at TORTURING (yes the same torture that almost every liberal on Capitol Hill is against) members of Iraq’s Olympic Team when they failed to medal.

Ok let’s play politics. What if George W. Bush never sent us into the Iraq that Bill Clinton touted as a rogue nation? What if everyone followed Barack Obama’s lead? Let’s say that Saddam Hussein did have WMDs and handed them off to terrorists to use in the form of a suitcase nuke in NYC and scores were killed. What then? Who would be blamed? Not Obama. Don’t be so quick to jump on the Beat-up Bush Bandwagon until you have walked in his shoes.

Operation Iraqi Freedom resulted in just over 4,000 US casualties vs nearly 1 MILLION that were killed in all the other wars combined. Wow, I think I can stop now.

Re: Beginnings of Wars Under Democrats


Well done Craig. I can take it from that there were no wars started by the US Republicans?

 

Mollie,  you would have been gasping for breath until Craig threw you a lifebouy. What a shame.

Veteran Advisor

Re: Beginnings of Wars Under Democrats

Just to clarify a couple of things in your little thingy.  You didn't write this so first it is blatant plagiarism.  Most of the article is technically correct but there are other considerations in most of that.  However, you state "Why did we attack Germany?"  I'm sure you know as well as I do but either didn't really pay attention to what the author stated or you just wish to perpetuate the lie to further slam Democrats.  Germany declared war on us within days of Japan's attack so FDR returned the favor by having Congress declare war on them also and again later still against Italy.  As for Iraq, I see a whole lot of woulda, coulda, shoulda and a few what ifs and maybes thrown in.

Senior Contributor

Re: Beginnings of Wars Under Democrats

have you ever figured what a hatred is --or is it too deep for you

Veteran Advisor

Re: Beginnings of Wars Under Democrats

It isn't too deep for me.  I just look at your posts and that provides me with a real clear definition of the word.

Senior Contributor

Re: Beginnings of Wars Under Democrats

maybe you need to back up your mouth with proof where i have ever said i hated obamo or anyone ----and to think your one of the reasons america cant win a war anymore

Veteran Advisor

Re: Beginnings of Wars Under Democrats

No amount of artificial intelligence can overcome natural stupidity.