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Veteran Contributor

is everything dems used to campaign on

Out the door now?  Its like all their positions now are just to oppose where trump is.  For so many reasons you'd think they'd be with him on trade.  Remember Hillary even had to flop her position on the tpp?

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2019/aug/08/schoolchildren-in-china-work-overnight-to...

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Honored Advisor

Re: is everything dems used to campaign on

Yeah Sam, Liberals suddenly being such China fans, it`s a chicken & egg thing...Do Libs break out the KY for China because Trump is against China or is it because they were frauds all along?    I actually think it`s because they were frauds all along and paid lip service for the sake of union members and the "Boo hoo hoo poor children" crowd.

But when the chips are down Libs are China fans. ... well China is communist, China is anti-Christian, the elites get cheap labor for their factories and the Goober type Libs get a nickel more for their soybeans, the "poooor chiiiildren" be damned.

Frequent Contributor

Re: is everything dems used to campaign on

Ahem. TPP was primarily a geopolitical tool against China.

Bernie pushed Hillary into that position.

But TPP plus leadership of a unified front against China's intellectual property practices might have met with some limited success, and some influence on their internal conduct. 

The present reality TV non-strategy has no chance.

And that would have greatly reduced their potential for targeted sanctions against US ag.

The emerging consensus might rightly conclude that "agriculture" is too stupid to deserve the continuance of the lavish social safety net that it has long enjoyed.

 

 

Advisor

Re: is everything dems used to campaign on

The only true sensical thing for the (what’s left of) greater proprietary ag producer demographic to do in this political season is to rally behind the only true believer in capitalism and conservative economic policies in the race. 

Of course that candidate being handicapped by a vagina and a background in ground level education....and of course party affiliation and.....Judges. 

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https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/elizabeth-warren-trade-tpp-225214

 

Sen. Elizabeth Warren is asking progressive activists to join her in fighting the Trans-Pacific Partnership throughout the summer and fall, releasing a five-minute video Thursday blasting the pact as part of a "rigged system" that benefits corporations over American workers.

"We're going to need your voices now more than ever," Warren (D-Mass.) says at the end of the video, which was released by CREDO, a liberal activist group that is fighting the TPP and worked against trade promotion authority legislation last year. The Massachusetts senator said she was counting on the organization's members "to help [her] fight to stop the TPP over the next few months."

 

Warren, who has been floated as a potential vice presidential pick for Democrat Hillary Clinton, highlights the Investor-State Dispute Settlement clause of the trade deal in the video, calling it a key provision that benefits big business while weakening public safety regulations.

"It'll be open season on laws that make people safer but cut into corporate profits," she says.

Warren notes that because of fast track, Congress will have to vote TPP "straight up or down — no amendments, no chance to strip out things like ISDS," which is why she says she's reaching out to activists for help.

"America shouldn't be signing lousy trade deals, period," she says.

 

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Current President did what Warren called for, yet progs don`t give him credit.  

Frequent Contributor

Re: is everything dems used to campaign on

Yes. Like when Dems were fighting the GOP, Farm Bureau and all the ag producer groups over NAFTA and China WTO.

Honored Advisor

Re: is everything dems used to campaign on

Who signed NAFTA and did you vote for him?  But because Trump was doing some about NAFTA you`ve been a fan.

Your favorite economist, Paul Krugman pushed NAFTA

Veteran Advisor

Re: is everything dems used to campaign on

DOING  SUMPTHUN  -  Like  a   Trump  University  Degree  in  Economics  -  maybe  -  ?  

Ross  Perot  was  spot  on,  except  top  expert  management  in  several  corps  thought  otherwise -  maybe ? 

I   DID'nt  vote  for  Clinton ,   and  please  review  how  many  OF  EACH  PARTY  voted  FOR  NAFTA   in  

HR  3450  -  approve  House  132  Rep.  &   102  Dems.

Senate   approve  3450   61,  - 38  nay  ,      34  Rep  for ,  27  Dems     =  FOR  THE  RECORD   

 

Honored Advisor

Re: is everything dems used to campaign on

I voted for Ross Perot twice (in case someone`s been under a rock) and I agreed with Democrats like Dick Gephardt  and a few others...there were still a few good Democrats 20 years ago.  Now the damned fools would jump in a manure pit if Donald Trump told them not to. 

Veteran Advisor

Re: is everything dems used to campaign on

Liken   to  Flynn  &  Cohen  - maybe - ?