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hdr22clintonem
Frequent Contributor

Re: things I will never understand

Obama filled the body bags with libyans, syrians, kurds, Yemenis, afgans, pakistanis and more.   Shamefully to many Americans only care if their governments actions result in american death, they dont care who else their government kills.

Katzenjammer12
Senior Contributor

Re: things I will never understand

Plenty of farmers do standn on their own two feet, just not big midwest grain farmers or big southern cotton or rice farmers.  Many livestock producers, vegetable farms and others have no subsidies.

I do now at least one grain farmer who does not take any subsidies.  But there is no doubt that puts him at an economic disadvantage.  What do you say when your family is not provided for as well as other s who have both front feet in the trough?  Oh, I'm holier than thou?  How many warm coats does "holer than though" pay for?

Katzenjammer12
Senior Contributor

Re: things I will never understand

Do you suppost it may be a little harder to get out of a war that it was to get in?  Do you wonder what our obligations are to Israel, Western Europe, Japan, Middle East?  Want to build a wall and pull back inside it?  Think it would be easy or smart?

Katzenjammer12
Senior Contributor

Re: So you're saying

Don, it is very easy to export labor demands.  AS we get more and more automation it will get even eaiser for a Bangla Deshi or Pakistani to do work in the US and at a much higher level than building toys or tv sets.  I mean accounting, all kinds of computer work and more.  Any work that is routine can be automated, and if it can be automated it can be done from a distance by a cheaper laborer.

 

How do you raise American wages?  Build a wall or put up tariffs?

 

Interestingly the local county raised minimum wages by about 2 bucks.  Gues what - eating out went up about 2 bucks, as well.  I mean the kind of eating out the minimum wage people do.  Oh, I'm happy for them, just not sure they gained very much.

hdr22clintonem
Frequent Contributor

Re: things I will never understand

Yes absolutely.  Thats why we should aboid leadership that is so ready to start wars, including proxy wars.

AllenJwi
Senior Contributor

Re: things I will never understand

More dead under Obama than G H Bush By far. Do you know why? He faught to win! Now I am surprised if they even give the troop bullets.THe libs have turned this in to a sissy game while the enemy fights for real.

hobbyfarm2145365
Senior Contributor

Re: things I will never understand

when farmers  recieve those govt cash and subsidies every year , are they in that "subsidizied" half of population ....... be honest now  it's going to asset  wealthy farmers

hobbyfarm2145365
Senior Contributor

Re: things I will never understand

I agree to a point but it was bush cheney who filled body bags with Iraqs on a lie to go to war. not to forget American lives lost

 

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hdr22clintonem
Frequent Contributor

Re: things I will never understand

Yes thats what they do, lie lie lie. Iraq was a lie, libya was a lie, syria is a lie.   So now we are going to elect someone who was a part of all those lies.  The warmongering republicans I expect this from, but why are progressives about to do this?

Red Steele
Veteran Advisor

thank God the elections are honest, right?

I can see why DJ Trump would withhold endorsing the winner based on

the checkered past of US elections....Nixon never challenged the fraud

in the 1960 election, Albert Gore went from being the next American

President to being a joke, and now we have the 2016 election where

Trump leads in the popular support of likely voters and the crooked

press says he is down anywhere from 3 to even 11 percent.

 

I don't believe that Trump is down...my personal belief is that more

likely voters support Trump than support crooked Clinton.

 

Progressives types have killed hundreds of millions throughout history,

why on earth would we expect them to shy away from cheating on an

election???