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Senior Contributor

time for 2 medical agencies

customer of mine went to er room for heart problems and had to wait 6 hours due to all the card carrying welfare frauds ahead of him --this is gov heathscare at it s best---why not have 2 hospitals one for payers and good insurance and the other for gov card carrying class of people and the gov who pushed healthscare through---heard today lady said her kid was sick and she had a card she would go to er rather than get an appt with a dr-----this is the healthscare obamo advocates

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Senior Contributor

Re: time for 2 medical agencies

I don't read many of your off the wall posts and this is the first  to respond to.....My wife entered a ER with servere leg and stomach pains and we sat for over 3 hours before recieving any assistance and that was with approx 1150.00 month ins policy   Health care in this country is all about money not care   We like to talk christain values in American but the only God we really worship is that green we put back pocket.

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Senior Contributor

Re: time for 2 medical agencies

dont wht you mean by off the wall -i only post facts but would your wait have been shorter if you eliminated the welfare cases

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Veteran Advisor

Re: time for 2 medical agencies

As you know, I have profoundly conservative views on medical care. I think we need a universal sytem that covers all Americans but that it be extremely stingy in what it covers. Yes, people would die for lack of access to the most costly treatments but people die because of holes in the current system. what is really dumb is getting a huge bill for something that could have been prevented cheaply.

 

The point of health care reform is to keep from bnakrupting our country, states and communites.

 

Beyond that, people should be permitted to buy as much medical coverage as they'd like or to negotiate with their employer for such. It probably ought to be taxable with deductibility for some combined threshold of premium and expenses on schedule A but I wouldn't go down in flames defending that.

 

And like this is going to happen but the same shuold probably apply to the elderly- there are your death panels but the good news is that none of the solid citizens who are enraged a gubmint would have relatives or themselves be in a position where they didn't have expanded coverage so it would only happen to society's moochers.

 

First, the medical and pharma industries would have the volk out marching in a matter of days about socialism, death panels etc.

 

Second, there would be a lot of financial dislocation from the malinvestment that has gone into medical capacity with the expectation that the government will continue to direct resources into the medical/pharm complex.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Veteran Advisor

Re: time for 2 medical agencies

Drive around the beltway in any large metro area and see the HMO and chain hospitals towers and ask oneself if the execs and shareholders are actually expecting to pay for them? When was the last time you were invited to a stock older owned company's mortgage burning party?

 

They went up, and the health corps grew based under the pressumption of eternal public, deficit funded subsidies of all sorts. Nobody makes any money with money sitting around...or with money being wasted or, better, pilfered away by, God forbid, actually paying it back. You simply aren't able to sufficiently skim under that sort of  business pracitces.

 

Universal health care will probably only come as a matter of necessary triage in the even of a general collapse. Doctors still wanting to doctor..nurses still wanting to nurse....as an alternative to picking through scraps or flipping burgers or prostitution.

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Senior Contributor

Re: time for 2 medical agencies

Actually it has already started happening. Many doctors are refusing to be Medicare providers...they refuse to accept the lower payment fees that are provided to them and are private pay only.

 

Not sure how the federal government is going to respond to this....maybe after November, the federal government will not be able to force the socialist economic line on free Americans.

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Veteran Advisor

Re: time for 2 medical agencies

We live in a progressively uglier world.

 

The popular opposition to Hillarycare in 1992 was mostly mounted over the notion that middle class people would lose some of the options and quality of care that they had become accustomed to.

 

This time around it is more about resenting that somebody else might be getting health care who doesn't deserve it.