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Hawken Cougar
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johnaa
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Re: Islam, a religion of peace?

   From a sephardic(Jewish) source http://www.sephardicstudies.org/islam.html

 

  "The first of many discriminatory laws against the Jews was passed even before the Moorish invasion in 305 C.E. in the Roman province of Hispania (Spain); soon after the Council of Toledo passed a canon forbidding Jews from blessing the crops of non-Jews, as well as prohibited Christians from sharing meals with Jews.  When the Visigoths (Aryan Christians) invaded Hispania in 409 C.E., more laws were instituted further restricting the Jews.  One hundred and eighty years later in 589 C.E., Visigoth King Recared relinquished the Aryan sect and accepted the orthodox Catholic faith, thereby paving the way for the religious unity in the country.   Subsequently the Church was to exert powerful influence on all aspects of social life.  Almost immediately a canon was passed forbidding the marriage between Christian and Jews; and in 612 C.E., the Council of Gundemar of Toledo ordered that all Jews submit to baptism within the year, or undergo "scourging, mutilation, banishment, and confiscation of goods" (Meyrick 170).  However, the years of late Aryan and early orthodox Christian rule were both coming to a close.  In 709 C.E., internal unrest destabilized the peninsula.  This strife originated between the Trinitarian Christians--who accepted the Trinity, and Aryan Christians, who saw jesus not as their god but as a prophet inspired by their god  (Charafi 2).

 

  "Two years later in 711 C.E., Moorish soldiers (a mixed Arab and Berber army) crossed over from Africa to the Iberian Peninsula. They were led by General Tariq ibn Ziyad, Governor of Tangiers (Sachar 3).   He advanced his army of near ten thousand men across the strait, and landed at a location, which from that day since has sustained his name--Jabal Tarik (Mount Tarik), or Gibraltar.  The Moors engaged in battle with Visigothic soldiers, eventually killing their monarch, King Roderick.  The Muslim invasion, and subsequent administration of Iberia, freed the major Spanish population of Jews from Visigothic oppression.  It was said that immediately after the invasion, the Jewish population of Toledo "opened the gates" of the city, welcoming the North African Muslims (Wexler 218).  Though ruthless fighters, the Moors were very just. They gave the Goth Spaniards an opportunity to surrender each of their provinces, to which most capitulated. 

"It is a common misapprehension that the holy war meant that the Muslims gave their opponents a choice 'between Islam and the sword'. This was sometimes the case, but only when the opponents were polytheist and idol-worshippers. For Jews, Christians, and other 'People of the Book'.there was a third possibility, they might become a 'protected group', paying a tax or tribute to the Muslims but enjoying internal autonomy" (Watt 144).

 

 

  http://www.scienceandyou.org/articles/ess_06.shtml

The second half of the first millennium AD in Europe is sometimes referred to as the dark ages. In some ways that's a misnomer. Although in some parts of Europe it seemed that the beacon of civilization had indeed been extinguished, in other parts, notably Spain, things were far from dark.

 

In Spain the candle of knowledge was kept burning by the Muslim conquerers called Moors. Not only did they possess a vast body of knowledge based on their own learning, they had also become the custodians of much of the earlier knowledge from the Greek philosophers including those of Alexandria such as Ptolemy.

 

 

johnaa
Advisor

Re: Islam, a religion of peace?

http://www1.american.edu/ted/hpages/jeruselum/muslim.htm

 

snip--In 638, when Jerusalem was surrendered to the Muslims, Umar (the first caliph), requested to be led to the Temple Mount, an acknowledgment of Islam’s acceptance of the Hebraic prophetic tradition. After reaching the Temple Mount, the caliph found himself disgusted on seeing that Christians had heaped garbage in the sacred enclosure to express their contempt for the Judaic faith. Umar, out of respect for the Jews, ordered the area to be cleansed, an act which also prepared the sacred Jewish site for Muslim worship. Umar fulfilled the hopes of Jews by refusing the church’s request to continue the ban against Jewish residence and inviting them back into the city. In the seventh century, as Jerusalem came into Muslim hands, the ban on Jewish residence was lifted. After approximately 500 years of being Judenrein, Jerusalem again included a Jewish community. Jews long banned from living in Jerusalem by Christian rulers, were permitted to return, live, and worship in the city of Solomon and David.(4)

snip-->Five centuries of peaceful coexistence elapsed before political events led to centuries of so-called holy wars. However, Fatimid Caliph al-Hakim reintroduced old persecution habits, including the wholesale destruction of two thousand churches throughout the empire, most notoriously the church of the Holy Sepulchre in 1009 (picture to left). By the eleventh century, European Christendom’s response to Islam took two forms: the struggle to reconquer Spain (1000-1492) and Italy and Sicily (1061), and the undertaking of another series of Christian holy wars - the Crusades (1095-1453). In 1099, the Crusaders stormed Jerusalem and established Sovereignty over the Holy Land. When Jerusalem was conquered by the Crusaders, virtually all its Muslim and Jewish populations were butchered. During this period, residence of non-Christians was banned, and thus the city underwent a drastic demographic change. From a provincial town Jerusalem became the capital of the independent Latin Kingdom and one of the most important centers of Christendom. With minor changes, the intensive monumental building and the street grid gave the city the form preserved today.

 

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The Ayyubid Period (1187-1516)

In 1187, Salah al-Din (Saladin) having reestablished Abbasid rule over Fatimid Egypt, recaptured the city of Jerusalem. For the next seven centuries, except for a short interlude, Jerusalem remained under Muslim rule. After the reconquest of Jerusalem, civilians were spared and churches and shrines were generally left untouched. Although Salah al-Din was faithful to his word and compassionate towards noncombatants, great efforts were taken to obliterate any signs of the Crusader occupation. Not only were the Mosques, such as the Dome of the Rock, which had been turned into churches now reverted to their original function, but quite a number of Crusader buildings were made into Muslim institutions.(7)

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r3020
Senior Advisor

Re: Islam, a religion of peace?


@Hawken Cougar wrote:

Does this video tell the truth about Islam?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ib9rofXQl6w

 

 

 



We see them living this every day. Must be a reason for it. The bad part is they view it as their duty to force us to live this way and they will gladly give their life and take as many lives as possible of the unbelievers with them to to accomplish this duty. They view lying to promote islam as a duty so no one can believe anything they say or promise when they talk of peace.