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[schnurrbart]

Why are the repubs trying to rush it through with no discussion?

[tomtoolbag]

  That was the point of them leaving, it was to force him to negotiate instead of trying to impose his will of an illegal usurp of labor laws, which the federal government overrides in this issue, but also with the threat of calling out the National Guard too. They were in Illinois, but left somewhere around 5:00-5:15 pm.

  Their budget probably wouldn't be in the shape it is if he wouldn't have rewarded his political donors with 140 million bucks either.

[schnurrbart]

I do understand why they left but I am wondering why the repubs want to vote with no discussion or trying to find a middle road some place.

[tomtoolbag]

  They're republicans, it's what they do, especially if they have some sort of political advantage in regards to the number of seats or a majority.

  You do remember the Patriot Act, don't you, because it's along the same lines in regards to .................................I believe they use the term or phrase "cramming it down our throats".

[r3020]

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@schnurrbart wrote:

I do understand why they left but I am wondering why the repubs want to vote with no discussion or trying to find a middle road some place.

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So they don't have 6,000 lay offs. That is the middle ground. The repub plan and everyone keeps their job. If not they will be forced to lay off 6,000 people because there is not enough money.

[hardnox604008]

Any anthrax detected at the NEA office?

[tomtoolbag]

  LOL, not that I've heard of......................yet.

  I think this is an action to override some federal labor laws pertaining to collective bargaining. I really don't like his threat of using the National Guard whatever way it's veiled. But, he's an inexperienced politician, and almost ran a major county past the point of no return with his ideology.

  Meanwhile back at the ranch, he's about to get a lesson in political payback that surely won't end well for him. There are many areas of the contract that had some room for major negotiation like sick and vacation days, but he went straight to ridiculous on his first move. I wouldn't have played it like that, and if he would've played his cards right he could have got some concessions that were close to what he might accomplish now, overall.

[hardnox604008]

Hi Tom,

I'm a bit conflicted on tis matter.

On the one hand Wisconsin is a great progressive state where pubic services have been delivered at a high level of quality- it is a high tax state but one where people have, for the most part, gotten their money's worth.

It isn't Illinois, if you know what I mean. Probably a bad place to be the test case.

On the other hand there is no question but that public unions are going to have to accept some rollbacks and if they won't they probably need to expect that the nuclear option is coming their way.

I really hate being on the sie of the emplyees but probably end up there just because I dislike the other side more. Not that may druthers matter a great deal one way or the other.

Best, h

[hardnox604008]

PS. I personally appreciate pubic services but meant to write public.