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Samnospam
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winter storms reveal ancient forest

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'These trees are in their original growth position and hadn’t keeled over, which would suggest that they died quite quickly, perhaps in a quite rapid sea level rise,” Prof Williams adds.

Up until 5,000 years ago Ireland experienced a series of rapid sea level rises, he says. During the mid-Holocene period, oak and pine forests were flooded along the western seaboard and recycled into peat deposits of up to two metres thick, which were then covered by sand.'

 

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/storms-reveal-7-500-year-old-drowned-forest-on-nor...

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schnurrbart
Veteran Advisor

Re: winter storms reveal ancient forest

Nothing that we didn't already know. If you are trying to say that weather ran in cycles or that there were some extreme conditions thousands of years ago, again we already know these things. But if you claim that MAN has NOTHING to do with conditions on earth swinging harder or more extreme lately by now, then you will never admit it---until you get a republican in office that says it and then it will become gospel.
Samnospam
Advisor

Re: winter storms reveal ancient forest

You say

 'conditions on earth swinging harder or more extreme lately '

 

 

 

 

 

“These trees are in their original growth position and hadn’t keeled over, which would suggest that they died quite quickly, perhaps in a quite rapid sea level rise,” Prof Williams adds.

 

Up until 5,000 years ago Ireland experienced a series of rapid sea level rises, he says. During the mid-Holocene period, oak and pine forests were flooded along the western seaboard and recycled into peat deposits of up to two metres thick, which were then covered by sand.

 

Prof Williams estimates that sea level would have been at least five metres lower than present when the forests thrived, and traces of marine shell 50cm below the peat surface suggest the forest floor was affected by very occasional extreme wave events such as storm surges or tsunamis.

 

He says most west coast sand-dune systems date to a “levelling” off period in sea level change about 5,000 years ago. Dunes in Doolin, Co Clare, are older still, having first formed around 6,500 years ago.

 

 

 

 

 

r3020
Senior Advisor

Re: winter storms reveal ancient forest


@schnurrbart wrote:
Nothing that we didn't already know. If you are trying to say that weather ran in cycles or that there were some extreme conditions thousands of years ago, again we already know these things. But if you claim that MAN has NOTHING to do with conditions on earth swinging harder or more extreme lately by now, then you will never admit it---until you get a republican in office that says it and then it will become gospel.

You mean the gospel according to Bart.

Milligan Hay - Iowa d:^)
Veteran Advisor

Re: winter storms reveal ancient forest

I have seen all this firsthand. It is truly fascinating to see how the tides, rainfall and glaciers have formed Ireland. Man's effect on all this is about as much as taking a pee in a Kansas wheat field.
r3020
Senior Advisor

Re: winter storms reveal ancient forest


@schnurrbart wrote:
Nothing that we didn't already know. If you are trying to say that weather ran in cycles or that there were some extreme conditions thousands of years ago, again we already know these things. But if you claim that MAN has NOTHING to do with conditions on earth swinging harder or more extreme lately by now, then you will never admit it---until you get a republican in office that says it and then it will become gospel.

Man gives himself way too much credit.

schnurrbart
Veteran Advisor

Re: winter storms reveal ancient forest

Come back when you get a mind.  You're a long way from Kansas Toto!

 

schnurrbart
Veteran Advisor

Re: winter storms reveal ancient forest

You're correct but then no one is talking about tides, rainfall and glaciers!