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Getting started... again
Years ago I raised cattle in a small feedlot for freezer beef. I did well, but when I had the chance (and when corn hit $5-$8) to get into grain farming, I took it and quit cattle. I now own some land and raise around 100 acres of corn a year. I have some ground not suitable for crop production (mostly grassland with some wooded areas) that I would like to run a few head of cattle on. Outside of my experience working on dairy farms, I have little experience with cow/calf. Good beef steers are hard to find at a reasonable price. Dairy steers are much more affordable and also readily available, but I don't have a good barn to put them in. In your opinion, should I buy 500 pound steers and feed them corn and supplement, or should I start out with bred cows or heifers? Thanks.
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Not sure of your location but the colored cattle will probably need some shelter also. How are you set up for water through the winter?
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Perhaps run the 500 lb dairy steers on your wooded pasture in the summer AND feed em 2lbs of Ground Ear Corn per 100lbs of calf weight Daily ( feed in the evenings ) on pasture.
You'll be able to run double the stocking rate and sell fat steins by end of sept 1st part of oct....right off grass.
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3020 I'm just north of the Michigan/Indiana line. The cattle I raised years ago had a barn and a small feedlot, so I don't have any experience raising cattle on pasture. The ground I own now has a small river running through it that never seems to freeze over, but isn't more than 3 feet deep most of the time, so I do have a good water source. I suppose I could feed cattle most of the year except the dead of winter. BTW I seen you at Ken's 2015 field day, I didn't get a chance to say hello, maybe next summer?
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Small world. Yeah if the son of a gun lets me know when it is. Missed it this year.

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the only shelter that is needed would be a good windbreak. They do much better in the open air than in buildings. During the worst weather you would just need to bed them with goodly amounts of straw, corn stalks...
You say you have some woods, sounds like the perfect windbreak to me.............. depending on how thick it is and such.
You could put up a small Calving barn with individual pens for cold weather calving, or calve them in April/May and you don't have to worry about it. Personally I have had much better luck calving in Jan, Feb, and early March when the ground is frozen solid and not soft and muddy.
The only animals I have a conventional shelter available for is for the Herd Bulls............. and they only get access when the temp is going to be 10 degrees and below............ other wise they are all in open lots with windbreaks. My windbreaks consist of woods, tree lines, embankments, round bale stacks, and some man made devices.
Cows need excercise to promote easy trouble free calving. I feed at the end farthest away from the water source so that they have to walk back and forth. On the same tact, feed at night to promote day time calving.
Starting out you can go a little cheaper on the cows........... do not scrimp on your bulls....... they influence every calf that is born. Or, AI and you can pick the very best bulls and individually mate based on the improvements you want to make for each individual animal.
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RJG640v8 what are your thoughts on buying bred cattle?
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RJG - you have summed it up to a '' T '' and for the bulls in cold frozen ground a pile of bedding out of the wind does wonders ---
Shelter belt wind breaks are priceless here in our area - what few that remain after '' roughing '' them out to raise row crops ---

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I will only buy open females with the intent of them being feeders and ending as fats.
I will only buy bred females if they are registered. I want to truly know who they are and what they are.
To each their own......... those are a couple of my rules for my operation.
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Wrightcattle, I may do that. I'm not set up to harvest or store ear corn. If I had a market for the ear corn outside of feeding steers I would think about running a few acres of ear corn since its well known to be good feed.