Dicamba damage

[gil.gullickson]

All,

I was down in Missouri to a field day last Friday and the field day pretty much revolved around dicamba damage. 

http://www.agriculture.com/crops/soybeans/why-dicamba-tolerant-soybean-technology-is-in-trouble

Have you seen dicamba damage in your area?

Gil Gullickson

Crops Technology Editor

Successful Farming 

[JimMeade]

I've not seen nor heard of any.  I don't know how much of these beans were planted, but I did hear a few farmers suggest they were going to defer using them until they had more comfort in using them.

[WCMO]

Not really seeing dicamba damage in this area.  Do know quite a few guys that bought those seed beans, yet the local elevators notified everyone this spring that they would not spray dicamba in-crop, only spring burn-down.  There are likely some individuals that sprayed in-crop, but haven't seen nor heard anything about damages locally.

[BA Deere]

I have not heard of any dicamba damage around here.  It`s funny, all winter long there were meetings on how wonderful this technology is and they`d show slides on how stabile their new formulation is, susceptible beans right next to the xtend beans weren`t touched at all and the only problem was with those going off label.  My seedsman said xtend beans are higher yielders and everyone will plant them in 2018.   

Most everyone sprayed Clarity30yrs ago and it didn`t seem like that stuff had near the problems this "safer" dicamba product has.  Maybe those of us using it then were sufficiently respectful of it.   Now it`s "big farmer politics"...run red diesel in the pickup and mix a generic Chinese dicamba with the safe stuff and you add this "Hotline" and you get a mess.   Anyone with a problem of their garden not doing good or trees dying has to blame someone else, so they call the Hotline.  

But that bubbled leaves on beans, the experts always said that`s soybean mosaic virus, but that does look a little different than diacamba damage.

        

https://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/pp/notes/Soybean/soy009/soy009.htm

[ECIN]

Well -----  I hadn't seen any till yesterday afternoon - That is when a good friend called and asked IF I had seen MY beans on this one  farm ??? Which I told him - I was by them that morning - going to a funeral and it was raining at that time -- BUT thought I noticed something going on with the South end of it - it went on for me to check out his field to the South of me - the field across the road - then another field on the South side of the one on the East side of the road - If you got all of that - Well , I took a ride and I'll be dam if mine weren't dinged up ! His is another story - they got banged up pretty good - I think they will be OK and he did to - Yet this was done by a farmer that  - must NOT give a S--- ! As he was spraying his corn with NO drops on and it was not windy - Heck it was dam near hurricane force wind ! Now here's what got me P----D - I had been spraying Status - flushed out my sprayer 5 times - then added 250 gallon of water - then added 2.5 gallons of PowerMax - then charged up the booms and let it set for 36 hours - blew out the PowerMax , then re flushed the sparyer 2 more times -- So -- I ask my self - Why did I spend so much time -- making sure that I didn't ding my beans - when all I had to do was just reload the PowerMax and then ding my own beans and had it over with ????? ????

This guy may get his justice ! I was talking to a good friend - app driver south of me - The same guy -- looks to him -- to have smoked some kind of flower that his wife has had growing for 25 years in front of there house !

Boy oh boy - you can smoke off a guys crops - but you starting smoking some gals flowers and there will be He11 to be paid !!!!

[Wind]

Yes, I took a drive and saw some of the damage.  I'm told 500 A "off target" beans where affected.  How much will the yield be affected?  Maybe not much, but will have to wait and see. 

I think the product should be taken off the market.

There was a large vegetable farm not far away that was not affected.  The wind was blowing away from that farm the day of application and must have been for days later  too. 

Won't  Liberty take care of resistant water hemp? Seems much safer. 

[ECIN]

Well ------------------------------- It was Engenia --- sprayed on corn that moved - wind ? or it just moved

[Wind]

It was a bean field that was sprayed.  The effected neighbors beans had cupped leaves.  

[gil.gullickson]

All,

For what it's worth, here is Monsanto's side of the story. This thing will be scrutinized and re-scrutinized over the next few months.

I'll do my best to keep on top of it. I'll be attending a meeting of agricultural editors next week and there will be seed/chemical companies there at a trade show. If you have any questions that I should ask 'em, send them my way.

Gil 

http://www.agriculture.com/crops/soybeans/monsanto-says-dicamba-movement-largely-due-to-illegal-prod...

[JimMeade]

Gil,

I had read the wrong label and when I read the right ones (and they are very, very similar) I found them very detailed but maybe a bit difficult to implement.  The clean out instructions are pretty rigorous.

I'm still not sure where wind speed is measured.  Boom height?  Target plant height?  10 meters in the air at the local airport?  And what wind measuring device is acceptable?