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JimMeade
Veteran Advisor

Wind Speed For Sprayer Records

Wind measurements at airports and other weather stations such as ASOS and AWOS are typically taken at a 10m reference height.  That is about 33 feet above the surface.  They are often given in knots (nautical miles per hour).  A nautical mile is 6076 feet.  A statue mile is 5280 feet.

 

Wind speeds closer to the surface are slower because of friction.  Here is a paper that discusses common observations.

http://belfortinstrument.com/height-wind-measurements-ground/

 

"As can be seen on this chart wind speed of 12 knots measured at 5 meters above the ground will be 13.3 knots 10 meters above the ground and 8.2 knots 1 meter above the ground due to surface friction creating a boundary layer of air near the surface of the earth."

 

The airport reading at 10m will be 13.3 knots.  The wind at 1 meter (3.3 feet) above ground level will be 8.2 knots.  Converted to miles per hour these examples are 15 miles per hour at 33 feet and 9.4 mph at 3.3 feet.

 

No, your university extension agent is not going to know anything about this.

 

However, it's obvious that if the label says 10 mph, you can spray legally when the airport says 15 mph or 13 knots.  

 

Of course, what the airport says 25 miles away may have no relationship to what is at spray boom height on your farm - that is a different question.

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ECIN
Senior Advisor

Re: Wind Speed For Sprayer Records

Great explanation Jim !  I have a couple of friends that are app drivers - In the busy season - we will call each other checking on conditions where there at - we may be miles away , but headed in there direction in a few hours - We have raised that question.  KGEZ is reporting 13 to 15 knots - yet - it sure don't seem to be that windy - Now I know - duh !   This may be the post of the year for spraying !

 

Thanks

 

Ken

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ECIN
Senior Advisor

Re: Wind Speed For Sprayer Records

Well Jim - I have a question for yea - lol   Can't help myself - but your the go to guy on this stuff .

 

Why are airport wind socks at 16 feet above the ground and airport anemometers at 33 feet above ground level?

 

do they do a conversion factor here ? Or is it how it will effect the planes take off speed  or landing ?  

 

Thanks

 

Ken

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JimMeade
Veteran Advisor

Re: Wind Speed For Sprayer Records

I saw that question as well and don't know the answer.  The ICAO doesn't talk to it.  The FAA says 16' stands, but doesn't say why.  Note there are two standard sizes of FAA windsocks.  Note that they stand straight out when the wind is 15 knots.  Not sure how they stand when the wind is 10 mph.

https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/advisory_circular/150-5345-27D/150_5345_27d.pdf

 

My guess is the 10m height on the anemometer is to get it out of some of the friction layer of the earth, but that is a pure guess.  Sorry I'm not of more help.

 

 

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sw363535
Honored Advisor

Re: Wind Speed For Sprayer Records

Yes that is my understanding from my flight training.  It is an attempt to disregard "ground effect" or the change in wind speed caused by terrain variations.  

It is an instructors lecture in the high wind southwest.  You can loose a good % of headwind on the last 50 feet of descent.

 

Thanks for the comments Jim,  It is my first thought when I saw the wording.  Most recorded wind speed out here comes from airport reports.  well said

 

Another factor that comes into play for us is evaporation rates due to our low humidity -- We live with a level of forgiveness.  Some of the worst drift issues I have seen came at very low wind speeds and low humidity warmup.  Worst personal experience was at 6am without any wind followed by a sw wind at 20 mph at 8:30 am .... low humidity and a 25 degree warm up.

 

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