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A free market means 0% profit

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/05/bill-black-free-markets-mean-zero-economic-profit-or-a-99-pro...

 

The article is worth a read but mostly on a different topic, worth the read anyway.

 

But it was the title got me to thinking about Time's assertion that over time renting land is a 0% venture- which intuitively and by experience I believe to be fairly true.

 

As I've said often, the intellectual foundations of the reigning Chicago school of economic thought are in agriculture and from the periods studied, say, the '30s through '60s, most of the required conditions of a free market did exist there.

 

But even into the present tense I'm thinking that, like Schutz' work on hogs, this fact tends to prove some of the basic assertions of the nature of markets.

 

That doesn't mean that somebody doesn't make money renting- you can be better than average (probably not by a lot) and you can be luckier (weather can be highly localized and while your production may be good/bad it doesn't greatly effect either the price received or the rental market). But for everybody that is better than average there is somebody below (that's a mathy thing) and many near the mean.

 

That's why I regard the current state of things- where policies driven to the terminus of neoliberal economic thought have made the multi-thousand acre rental crop operation the standard, are destined to fail. Or more accurately, can only survive if the participants have enough political power to insure policies will always evolve to provide a safety net that is sufficient to keep a majority in business.

 

The good news is that in this current alignment the "farmer" has many powerful political allies- primarily their input suppliers, lenders etc., who need their farmer cows well enough tended to keep giving milk.

 

Until recently we've on a 3X milking schedule with large doses of BSE. But running with that metaphor, in those sort of setups the average productive lifespan of the cows is less than 2 lactations.

 

 

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Re: A free market means 0% profit

If a free market mimics commodity production, the net sum is zero.  Some win big all the time, some hover around break-even point, and some lose until they're out.  It's the nature of the beast.

 

Some farm programs used to reward big yields.  The guy with a lower yield but more net profit was not at the head of the hand-out line.  In those cases, an artifical idea was introduced.  Break even on some aspects but come out ahead on others that didn't really have anything to do with the main objective.

 

Policies that promote aggregation at the same time implicitly promote specialization, as you've noted.  One guy runs 7,000 cows on BSE, another runs 700 an sells into an organic or natural foods market.  Nothing stays the same, it's always in flux, materials with mass are subject to gravity (water and other things run downhill) and the tendency is to level.

 

We're all in the business of seeking a competitive advantage which, if found, is transitory.

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BA Deere
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Re: A free market means 0% profit

Well farming is so much fun that there are quite a few that will work in town and get their old lady a second job, to fund their playing in the dirt.  And you have some big enough that they buy seed for $150/bag that everyone else has to pay $300 for and all those input discounts are capitalised into what they pay for rent.  Then you have the schmoozer, that attends the same church as the landlord, clears the driveway "picks rocks" mows the road ditch and that good boy gets a discount on the rent...which is fine.  But that is the competition out there and will be as far as the eye can see.  Not profit conducive for a Joe average that has no gimmicks.

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sw363535
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Re: A free market means 0% profit

The mistaken assumption usually falls somewhere in the idea that rental decisions are nothing more than economic decisions....

Usually coming from an educated/inexperienced perspective.. or a very narrow set of assumptions

 

If your going on vacation for three months and decide to rent out your house, is the only consideration going to be who presents the biggest wad of cash??  Do you care what your house looks like when you get back??

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Re: A free market means 0% profit

There is not a lot of altruism left in the Corn Belt.

 

But it's still  fun to talk about things that way when we are in patting each other on the back situations.

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sw363535
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Re: A free market means 0% profit

Bruce I understand, I been observing....... and don't live in the cornbelt.  It is one of the things that shocked me about Iowa and Illinois.  As particular as most farms are kept, and as pretty as most are one would think cash rent would not be so popular..

I live in a much tougher climate, where if your not timely, you back 40 can become someone elses front yard...

and where cash is not always king...  and most rents seek to promote the success of both ownership and management...

 

Glad I don't live there.

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