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Are You For Or Against GMO Labelling?

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Senator Feinstein wrotte a letter to President Obama urging him to ignore Congress and direct the FDA to require the disclosure of GMO ingredients in foods.

 

There are a couple of questions here, including whether the president should use executive action, but the main question is whether or not food should be labelled with GMO ingredients.  What do you think?

 

If foods are labelled with GMO ingredients will it imply that it makes a difference in the food?  Those who oppose GMO labelling say it's all the same food and a label would be an artificial and unscientific designation.

 

If foods with GMO ingredients are labelled, would essentially all foods of many types be labelled so that the public would decide it simply didn't matter?

 

Would custormer reaction to GMO labelling increase the market for non-GMO grains and makes the farmers more money, or would the farmers feel obligated to grow some non-GMO to serve the marekt but have the eat the increased storage, pesticide and handling costs without being compensated?

 

What do we know about how current labels are interpreted and used and how will that reflect how GMO labelling might be used?  Would it simply be ignored, or would it just be a way for retailers to charge more money without passing any more on to the farmer?

 

I have to say that I don't care whther food has GMO labels or not.  I buy on value and I personallyl don't think GMO or organic affects the quality of the product to the price component of value ends up being a major factor.  I buy the meat that tastes best and don't care where it's from so long as it's safe.  There happens to be a breakfast cereal that is as good as Post that is organic but is cheaper - I buy it.

 

What do you tihink about GMO labelling and how it is being handled?

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Totally against.  We have no choice------ we must be totally against.

 

Treefmr points out the first ----------- the public is not educated enough on the subject to be anything more than "led around like sheep."

 

Second --------------- The lack of respect and dishonesty in the governing body.  As pointed out in your entry Jim ------- It begins with a senator encouraging our president to "skirt" the authority of congress with imagined powers.  And two paragraphs later you are assuming the labeling process will be done accurately.

A bad assumption --- that we can trust politicians.

 

We know that the vast majority of foods will be labeled if the process is accurately done ----------- all foods with soy or corn products, all meats and dairy fed with those products, soft drinks, etc etc etc.  even wheat breads will have a buttered or oiled pan in the process. ----------- If you label all foods it will be obvious to the public that there is not a health risk,  And even the diehard socialists are going to get tired of the ecoli from fresh veggies that are left to eat since it is so wrong to cook food. Smiley Happy

 

Point is Jim, and you are probably making this point,  In the end the foods that will be labeled are going to be the "politically incorrect foods".  And it will just be a governmental program to modify public behavior to the whims of the self appointed ellite while fleecing the sheep.

 

GMO is the most effective red hering of our time and we still validate it.  I am not sure global warming/climate change will have a better run than GMO.

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Jim, I honestly have mixed feelings on this subject. I think differences, if any, may lie along parameters that are not nomally assessed in determining foodstuff quality. The concerns I have over Green Revolution wheat glutens are probably the closest parallel I coukd cite.

This is a genie that would be virtually imposdible to put back in its bottle. I would prefer not to consume GMO foods, and so I guess that means labelling them, so I can exercise that choice, is a necessity.

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Doubt it will make a lick Of difference. Anything with grain in its ingredients or was fed grain prior to being slaughtered or milked will have a gmo label. Unless it was specifically and purposefully grown and stored separately, essentially all affordable foods will have this label if they push the issue.
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First I would like to a study that shows what the general public knows about GMO. My bet is not much.
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Got a call from a friend who does crop adjusting.  I started changing my operation over to non GMO a few years ago based on my crop consultants recommendations and he knew this.  He is telling me how many large oeprators are going to nonGMO grain now.  The impetus for this is livestock health since as soon as livestock feeders start on nonGMO grain their herd starts growing and producing better with better herd health.  I think there will be two tiered pricing with GMO grain being discounted as livestock producers will only want nonGMO

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Totally against.  We have no choice------ we must be totally against.

 

Treefmr points out the first ----------- the public is not educated enough on the subject to be anything more than "led around like sheep."

 

Second --------------- The lack of respect and dishonesty in the governing body.  As pointed out in your entry Jim ------- It begins with a senator encouraging our president to "skirt" the authority of congress with imagined powers.  And two paragraphs later you are assuming the labeling process will be done accurately.

A bad assumption --- that we can trust politicians.

 

We know that the vast majority of foods will be labeled if the process is accurately done ----------- all foods with soy or corn products, all meats and dairy fed with those products, soft drinks, etc etc etc.  even wheat breads will have a buttered or oiled pan in the process. ----------- If you label all foods it will be obvious to the public that there is not a health risk,  And even the diehard socialists are going to get tired of the ecoli from fresh veggies that are left to eat since it is so wrong to cook food. Smiley Happy

 

Point is Jim, and you are probably making this point,  In the end the foods that will be labeled are going to be the "politically incorrect foods".  And it will just be a governmental program to modify public behavior to the whims of the self appointed ellite while fleecing the sheep.

 

GMO is the most effective red hering of our time and we still validate it.  I am not sure global warming/climate change will have a better run than GMO.

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I see in one report that 26 states are considering GMO labeling of one kind or another.  I'm not sure what that means.  There is already a GMO labeling process - it's called organic.  Why do they need another?  They like pyrethroids but they don't like VT3?  They don't like herbicide but they'll accept erosion?

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This is from a couple of years ago, but it was debated in congress:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZtiyAPUCkM

 

 

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If they had only banned all foods with any genetic derived background from California and Vermont two years ago, we would be approaching a solution to most of the problem by now.

 

the question always pops into my head when I listen to a person like this fumble with the "catch" phrases of genetics that are planned, "engineered", manipulated or purposely created is this ---------------- should we only make bread from the wheat stalks that were accidently cross polinated and avoid the ones that were intended to cross polinate?  Should we only butcher the calf that was unintentionally impregnated?  

 

Jim I just wish our Senators knew as much about this subject as he does about picking their nose on capital hill and saying the word engineered 50 times in the same speach.  If we hadn't done that hybrid crossbreeding we would have a lot higher corn price and a lot fewer people to pick at their food.-------------- I worry about what the kids are injesting as well, but it has nothing to do with food.  It has everything to do with the absence of math and science in their diet.

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There already is a label if you want non-gm foods,  it's called "certifed organic".    We don't need to add even more label requirements.  Consumers already have that choice.

 

 

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