How Should Agriculture Deal With Immigration?

[sw363535]

Mike Rowe is my idea of a real special guy.    He is welcome at my house any time of day and any day he chooses.

Ahead of Nolan Ryan or Barbara Jordan....  or even Ted Roosevelt.

Barbara Jordan, an african american who was achieving greatness when the National organization of Women was just getting started telling women how bad off they were...

"In 1994 and until her death in 1996, Jordan chaired the U.S. Commission on Immigration Reform, which advocated inceased restriction of immigration, increased penalties on employers that violated U.S. immigration regulations.^[13][14][15] While she was Chair of the U.S. Commission on Immigration Reform she argued that "it is both a right and a responsibility of a democratic society to manage immigration so that it serves the national interest." Opponents of modern U.S. immigration policy have cited her willingness to penalize employers who violate U.S. immigration regulations, tighten border security, oppose amnesty for illegal immigrants, harm to US citizens in jobs and employment from cheaper illegal alien workers,^{[citation needed]}, and clear process for the deportation of legal immigrants.^[16] In 1994, Clinton awarded her the Presidential Medal of Freedom and The NAACP presented her with the Springarn Medal.^[1] She was honored many times and was given over 20 honorary degrees from institutions across the country, including Harvard and Princeton, and was elected to the Texas and National Women's Halls of Fame.^[1]"

^{Barbara was a democrat in congress before shear stupidity took over the democratic party... Look how different her perspective on immigration is compared to the views of present day democrats and their global elitest comrads...  Or Pelosi's view that american "rights" should be bestowed on all the worlds people.}

^{Farmers as much as any group fail to see the change going on around them.}

[BA Deere]

Hey SW, we have a egg factory in the area that advertises paying $13/hr mostly Hispanics work there.  My Wife sees the health problems firsthand, there`s alot of respiratory issues with the workers, 20 yrs from now it`s going to be worse and expensive.  I don`t know how much could be paid to cover the "real costs".

But in the area there are some bad actors:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swift_raids 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postville_raid 

 http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/egg-recall-wright-county-egg-quality-egg-owner-austin-jack-...

DeCoster is no stranger to controversy in his food and farm operations:

• In 1997, DeCoster Egg Farms agreed to pay $2 million in fines to settle citations brought in 1996 for health and safety violations at DeCoster's farm in Turner, Maine. Then-Labor Secretary Robert Reich said conditions were "as dangerous and oppressive as any sweatshop." He cited unguarded machinery, electrical hazards, exposure to harmful bacteria and other unsanitary conditions.
• In 2000, Iowa designated DeCoster a "habitual violator" of environmental regulations for problems that included hog manure runoff into waterways. The label made him subject to increased penalties and prohibited him from building new farms.
• In 2002, the federal Equal Employment Opportunity Commission announced a more than $1.5 million settlement of an employment discrimination lawsuit against DeCoster Farms on behalf of Mexican women who reported they were subjected to sexual harassment, including rape, abuse and retaliation by some supervisory workers at DeCoster's Wright County plants.
• In 2007, 51 workers were arrested during an immigration raid at six DeCoster egg farms. The farm had been the subject of at least three previous raids.
• In June 2010, Maine Contract Farming — the successor company to DeCoster Egg Farms — agreed in state court to pay $25,000 in penalties and to make a one-time payment of $100,000

[sw363535]

Ironically Bill Clinton claimed to have planned to appoint Jordan to the supreme Court.  Her failing health blocked that outcome.

I was anxious to see it, being a fan & having heard her speak. I think she would have been a good conservative justice and a product of the conservative democratic south.  

A philosiphical patriotic group that has been driven into hiding in the republican party by the new radical anarchy, Bible hating, democratic party we see marching in splendor today.

Things change....................... or we see what we want to see.................. or both.

[sw363535]

I here the same opinions of the meat packer here ... and you can raid it today and probably find three plane loads of deportables (it rymes with Hillary's term for me)

And they were making 17 to 20 per hour.  

Wage and illegals cannot be correlated these days like it once was.... This packing crowd all make more than most of the college grads in the area..... assuming the teachers all graduated.

Roofers and concrete guys make more.   

We have sat in our cubicles and played games with this issue until it is a terrible mess.  I have heard it estemated that 25 to 30% of the hispanics who entered the country in the last 40 years have false documents.   The local mexican mennonite populations are notorious for buying and reselling social security numbers multiple times for years.  It was so bad a few years ago that the same SS number was showing up twice or more at the same employer at the same time.  The letters from the IRS showing "Multiple User Number" for individuals were common.  May still be, because the Obama administration did nearly nothing on the immigration issue.    Just a couple of years ago a couple from Mexico who had been here a while were caught laundering drug cash through a small town bank where the wife had gotten a job.  The case took a long time to be finished and we began to doubt there were going to be penalties.  I think the case was trying to discover how many bank officials were aware, but we started to wonder if there would ever be charges.

Your wife needs to come around here when we are cleaning grain bins or working in a swks dirt storm.  There are a lot of difficult jobs.... Make her watch Mike Rowe's shows.  Everyone should have to do a few nasty jobs.  Chickens are a nasty job even when your pulling feathers in the back yard on 200 head instead of 200K head.  My asthmatic lungs, have a little to do with open cab combines and tractors.  I just can't see blaming the owner of the business for the health risk unless he is working the hispanics in shackles....  The worker can leave there and get another job any day.  And if $13 did not buy labor he would have to pay more..  The worker sets the wage he is willing to take.   There are illegals working in many places and nearly every state.  We don't realize how big the non immigration issue is...  Maybe she could use a trip down to where the workers came from like honduras or guatamala.  their life expectancy might have risen with the egg job.  

$13 an hour will get us $2500 to 2900 a month........that is good money in most of the world. what on earth do we expect for little or no education and weak social skills.  Half the people in our town don't know if they got the right change when they leave sonic.  We are rapidly approaching a time when there are no jobs for the uneducated...$0 per hour........ 

The penalty for screwing off an opportunity to learn has never been so great.  And yet most of the US raised young folks who can't read or do math will turn down $13 an hour and never look down the road to see whats ahead for them.  You can't aford that level of ignorance in your egg house or in any other job.  The kids should go visit a few employers work places.  The future is bleeek.  The simple assembly line jobs are the easiest to automate.  And the robot doesn't need drug rehab covered on his medical plan or refuse to work one saturday a month.

[k-289]

I find  with   ''extreme interest ''  a sticker can be placed on every orange, apple, bananna, plum etc. with a COOL label - and our cut meat providers ring their hands in anguish about doing the same as '' cost prohibative '' -  check off  $$$  at  work - although when our product is on display off shore it being immparative to display USDA ????

EXPLAINation of reality PLEASE ---  

[k-289]

I'm confidant we could train someone recieving these high paying packing plant wages with $$$ from  Check Off to preform this task---

Reading an add from  INDEED  web site on packing plant jobs at Gibbon Nebr.  -  interesting read and I wonder if these jobs are so lucrative why the continous display of offerings ?  

It is worth the read --- 

[sw363535]

When it becomes a public service and not a political tool, I'm with ya.

[sw363535]

It's not the pay. It is the desirability of the job. And often that is just because ..... no opportunity to play on a phone or computer.
It's easy to hire the body but too often without the mind.

[k-289]

SW  -  Excellent  point  about mind & body ---

Our  models  of  HIGHer  learnings have over sold - peddeled [ in my view  }  a mind set of the rating of 2nd class being a laboring individual ---

My examples of this are somewhat endless - including the last decade of so called computor related topics in skilled labor---

Having a  cOmpUt/#.or stop by to  wire my house , drill my well , feed our stock, empty a bin, install my furnace , check engine light etc. etc. etc. -  have your professor out for a round of these task's and let me know the results plz---

I think I have been working on completing my  dble. doctorate in work ethic   -  with a minor in common centz  - finals are approaching ---

Next ,  I'm thinking about getting a doctorate in basket weaving if I can get another school loan - have 29+ pages of paper info to fill out so wish me luck ---    

[k-289]

Also  looking  for guidence for my wife on continuing her nursing education as after 3 + decades of nursing - her degree has become some what inadequite - I suggested Trump U. for starters ??

With several continuing Ed. classes annually being Un -insuffiCienT at this point in time ---   

any suggestions from my trusted friends at this site - Thanks  

Or suggestions of a career shift - ?