Monkey Wards and Amazon

[BA Deere]

I think it was a short 15yrs ago that Best Buy was in hot water for "selling appliances too cheap  " Well here we are a Best Buy has a foot on a banana peel because of the internet.  But Mom & Pop appliances stores are going gangbuster Zilges Appliance and McCloskey Appliance are all over the radio with deals.  

I`m in favor of a Amazon tax, however Mark Levin on the radio had an argument against it that I`ll have to be a liberal and ignore because I can`t counter it.   If Amazon sells in Wyoming and doesn`t pay the 6% sales tax that  isn`t fair to Wyoming businesses.  Levin says, "Well, Amazon has to some how charge the consumer for shipping that the Wyoming business doesn`t have" plus it creates truckdriving jobs delivering all those purchases.  I can`t counter that argument, but as a Iowa resident, I don`t want my Iowa state income taxes any higher and I sure the hell don`t want property taxes any higher, though I hear Nebraskans pay $100/acre tax each year for their blow sand 

http://www.marklevinshow.com/2018/03/29/march-29-2018/  

On Thursday’s Mark Levin Show, There are new calls for the government to regulate social media and tax online retailers. Despite the discrimination conservatives face from internet giants like Amazon, Facebook and Google, government intervention is not conservative. Do conservatives now stand for government interference on a massive scale in the private sector? Conservatives who don’t like how Google, Facebook, Twitter, or any other social media site treats them should stop demanding government action and compete in the free market. Also, President Trump’s call to place an internet sales tax on Amazon would only hurt consumers. The nationalist populists and nationalist socialists pushing for an internet tax are all wrong. We shouldn’t all turn on these businesses. What we should do is pressure them, compete against them, but don’t drag the government in. That’s the worst thing you could do. Later, over 21,000 people have died waiting to enroll in Medicaid since its expansion under Barack Obama, and nobody is talking about it. Progressives set up these programs so we’re not allowed to criticize them. We’re told the problem is always because they don’t have enough funding, or haven’t tried hard enough. Finally, Robert Mueller is not here to get to the bottom of Russian collusion or interference in the 2016 election. Instead he’s using them as excuses to justify his true intention, which is to investigate the Republican Party, the RNC, Donald Trump, and all things Republican. Mueller has absolutely no interest whatsoever in investigating Hillary Clinton, her campaign, the DNC, the Steele dossier, FISA abuses, or Uranium One.

[k-289]

If  Laveen is  using Wyoming as a comparison barometer for anything in retail,  except  '' coal  loaded  tonnage '' , petrolium,  and  truck mile tonnage using  I-80 , it would be like comparing  corn production of Iowa  & Wyoming---

Considering the source , the reflection has merit - truck driving jobs - AmaZing , I guess , with  ''' Exempt ''' being the shovel of dirt on the new grave --- 

The resemblance '' 501 C ''  has become the blemished,, abused, escort service character example that brings a screaming silence to most state legislature's  ---     

[BA Deere]

No, you`re missing the point, the only thing "Wyoming" has to do with the point was a caller from Jackson, Wyoming said he wanted a tax on internet sales because it was unfair competition for his tire store.  He had to charge Wyoming sales tax where the internet seller didn`t so they had a "6% price advantage".   Mark Levin countered with "yes, but the internet seller has to charge shipping fees to deliver the tires to Wyoming, where you don`t ....and California has a 8% sales tax and you have only a 6% ...so how is that fair?????".   You can insert any state for "Wyoming" if that helps you understand...Maine Nebraska Alaska Florida Minnesota...where ever.

All that said I favor (but don`t like) a internet sales tax, because it gets the sales revenue out to us poor states outside California.....you know, us states that voted for Trump?  🙂

*oh, now I suppose you`ll be against the internet sales tax after hearing that.  🙂

[k-289]

I'm  for  it , although thinking there ''' isn't any shipping fee's  ''' for the retailer in Jackson Hole is ludicrous --- 

Jackson Hole  is  the  1  economic '' elite '' hang out  in  the  Cowboy State with locals struggling to survive,  trust me , as my travels through the town - now tourist boom - bust months stagnation being the roller coaster of survival ---

Jackson Hole Airport  (JAC)  is the busiest terminal in Wyoming ,  313,151 passengers is  1 hint ---

The local tire guy has to have a business model of , I'll bring my own eggs to the restaurant,  ah whatAu gona charge me to fry em ,  or have Amazon come fix your flat on top of  '' Togwotee  Pass ''   between Jackson & Dubois   ---

Antone thinking shipping is free - ask  H a n j i n  ---    

[BA Deere]

There are better examples than tire retailers in Jackson, Wyoming, because a tire retailer in Jackson is going to pretty much have a monopoly on the 8,000 permament residents plus tourists needing a new or repaired tire.   But if a resident of Jackson orders a $120 tire over the internet, maybe the tire store owner charges $150, but he mounts and balances it in on that cost and if the tire fails with 75% tread goes to bat for the customer in getting a prorated discount on a new tire.   When you order it off the internet in many cases "sucks to be you!" and you have to either have your own balancer or take it to the local tire shop and roll the dice if it`s a faulty tire.

But the tire store in Jackson can get a trailer load of tires for inventory, where a Jackson resident orders 1 or 4 tires and they come on a Fed ex truck specially, even if the customer thinks it`s "free shipping" he`s paying.  So the tire store does have advantages, especially on bulky tires that need special tools and not everyone can do the work without ruining the wheel or tire.  

I would think what really hurts are those stores on mainstreet we used to call "Dime stores" that sold nicknacks , they can`t have large enough inventory as ebay and those trinkets can be shipped pretty cheap.   But on some plate or Hallmark Christmas orniment, old ladies having their grandkid buy it on ebay without sales tax is money that isn`t there to fix the potholes on mainstreet.

[k-289]

So  why  was  the  state  of  Wyoming  even  part  of  Mark L's  conversation ,  AmaZone  could  care  less if  they  ever  got  an  order  from  the  state with  a  population  of  less than  7 people  / sq. mile (  579,000 ) ---

Des Moines Ia.  - 197,000  -  State of  Iowa   3, 123,000  - who do  you  think , will get the   '' free '' shipping ?  ?

Interesting - air ---       

[BA Deere]

Yeah, I`ve played Abbott to your Costello too long on this thread....good night Gracie.   🙂

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[sw363535]

US government has picked the winners and the internet is their choice........  That is what you get when you elect the communist party.  Government control... and in this case .....they choose who you will do business with.

When you allow that much of your economy to go without taxation....(sales or income)  you are choosing to favor its survival.  Congress represents the investor class owning that favored tech stock.... and buys the other votes needed with borrowed cash.  

That 20+trillion of debt is accumulating to some degree because the progressive dreamers who march for causes 4 days a week and live on amazon prime don't pay taxes at the same rate as the guy who goes to sears (or the comparitive example) or their local merchant.

This is an attempt at logical thought.    --- irrelevant .......I know in the face of a government check ..... irrelevant.

Buying most stuff....... walmart type stuff is done through the weakness of compulsion.   The internet is just a facility to take advantage of human weakness.

Send the whole tech industry over seas.  They still need the fools in the US to buy their Stuff.  Then it becomes an import we can tax.  And put $100 a month tax on wifi service...per user.

[bruce MN]

When I was a kid you could buy registered breeding hogs and sheep out of the Sears catalogue.  They said they’d ship them to you (by rail) in a crate that you had to return, at your expense.

I always wondered where they sold those boars and gilts to.  Sears had breeding farms somewhere around Chicago.  But in the greater part of the hog belt there seemed to be a breeder or two or three of most of the breeds in every township. But I suppose there might have been something important to some people about the value to their psyche of not having to do business with, not having to write a check to someone you knew.  Having to confess by action to another person who you might have opinions about or who was from a different clan or other  that they might actually have created something that you needed.

There is still some of that going around.  People say that they like to buy from small retailers, but mainly for coffee and ice cream and crafts and such.   If the ethic was actually there, people would be opening hardware stores and you could buy a suit of clothes in a town of 3000.

[sw363535]

Isn't that totally related to the fact that most people do not live in a small town anymore.

And even for those who do live in a small town and have money, there has always been glamore in owning the one from the city.  People have always been suckers for looking smarter than the neighbor. 

It is what greases the wheels of change.  

And it accellerates when the city stuff gets delivered for free and can be shopped for on the latest electronic gimic.