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PETA eyes drones to watch hunters, farmers

Ok, this one takes the cake, PETA buying drones to watch over hunters and farmers. If I see a PETA Drone going over my hog operation, I will see how these drones will operate after they take a load of #2 Birdshot from my shotgun. I find this pretty funny, PETA using drones to watch Livestock Farmers. Article is below:

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PETA eyes drones to watch hunters, farmers

(CNN) -- Another animal rights group is shopping for drones it will use to watch for animal abuse -- and gun owners are setting their sights in anticipation.

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals said this week it plans to purchase drones -- small, remote-controlled, camera-carrying aircraft -- to watch for illegal activity among hunters.

In a press release, PETA said it would "monitor those who are out in the woods with death on their minds," using spotlights or feed lures, or drinking alcohol while in possession of a firearm. PETA also intends to fly the remote-controlled aircraft over factory farms, fishing spots and "other venues where animals routinely suffer and die," it said.

The group doesn't yet have any drones or specific locations where it intends to fly them, and organizers don't know when they'll attempt to put them in the air.The organization wants to watch bear hunters, in particular, PETA President Ingrid Newkirk told CNN. Bear hunting is legal, but Newkirk said PETA would lookfor hunters luring bears with food or killing mothers with cubs at their sides.

"The talk is usually about drones being used as killing machines, but PETA drones will be used to save lives," Newkirk said in a news release.

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in the United States, people can fly model aircraft without approval from the Federal AviationAdministration if they keep the drone in line of sight, lower than 400 feet above ground and away from airports and air traffic. Other types of unmanned aircraft systems need FAA approval, according to the agency.

Newkirk said PETA plans to follow U.S. requirements while flying drones and will fly them overseas, where there may be fewer restrictions. PETA is active in the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, Germany, Hong Kong and India.

As news of PETA's plan spread, gun owners reacted online. The shooting sports website AmmoLand respondedby posting a PETA drone practice target for readers to use at the shooting range.

"Sounds to me like this will create a whole new shooting sport," the site said. "PETA Drone Target Shooting."

Readers at the blog Guns.com posted similar comments.

Newkirk said she wasn't concerned.

"I'd rather have them shoot something inanimate than an innocent doe," she said. "It's not the bedroom; it's the great outdoors, so let's see what they're up to."

It isn't the first time an animal rights group has considered using drones to track hunters. Showing Animals Respect and Kindness, or SHARK, has launched camera-carrying aircraft hundreds of times to film pigeon shoots, said Steve Hindi, the organization's president. During pigeon shoots, hunters try to shoot birds after they're released from cages or mechanically launched. Hindi posts the footage online and sends links to state and local law enforcement, but hasn't gotten much response.

Twice, SHARK's drones have been shot while filming pigeon shoots at Wing Pointe shooting resort in Berks County, Pennsylvania, Hindi said. In a press release from November, SHARK said the camera feed went out on a drone camera after a single shot from the shooting range.

State police investigators said they couldn't identify who shot the drone at Wing Pointe,and couldn't prove whether it was anaccident, said David Beohm, spokesman for the Pennsylvania State Police. Beohm said the drone was flying in airspace restricted by the FAA.

Hindi said he doesn't believe the shooting was an accident.

"It was a **bleep** good shot," he said.

CNN contacted Wing Pointe, but representatives declined to comment. Pigeon shoots are legal in Pennsylvania.

Law enforcement officers tried to prevent SHARK from flying a drone inSouth Carolina in February 2012, Hindi said. A shot brought down the drone soon after it went into the air, and it crashed into a highway, Hindi said.

The Colleton County Sheriff's Office filed an incident report. It's still an open case, and no one has been charged.

Hindi said he's gotten calls from people who say they'll fly drones over his house. He said he doesn't care, and that he'll continue to fly drones as long as it's legal.

"We have these knee-jerk reactions about drones, when the average person has no worries," he said.

 

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Re: PETA eyes drones to watch hunters, farmers

I guess that if it in Iowa they can watch but if they take a picture it is against the Ag Gag law?

 

BTW, Indiana in the process of doing Iowa one better on the agrofascism front- including timbering and fracking in the ban.

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Re: PETA eyes drones to watch hunters, farmers

The way I see it, these PETA Drones may become a new sport in Iowa.  I mean . . . every farmer in Iowa owns the air rights above his land, if PETA trespasses upon those air rights, their little drones may become great sport for the red necks and me here in the rural backwater.  

 

I wonder if we can get a 179 deduction for purchasing drone anti aircraft guns to protect our air rights.   Could be a very expensive proposition if they want to launch their small, small, small drones to trespass upon air rights owned by farmers.  John

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Re: PETA eyes drones to watch hunters, farmers

In concert with EPA releasing farm owners' personal information, even though it had no right to even collect it, one can only sense an effort to destroy animal ag in America.

There will likely be some intriguing encounters, as interests clash. Hunters go about their activities armed to deal with danger. Farmers may need to follow suit.

I will not speculate what our family would do, if we encountered such espionage on our property. I am sure the men will figure out something...I would think if they are in a state where there are laws against taking pictures surreptitiously inside farms, they will have to admit to being criminals, in order to use the images.
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Re: PETA eyes drones to watch hunters, farmers

We sell and operate UAVs for precision mapping and scouting and work for farmers. Please before you take a pot shot at a strange craft flying over your neighbours fields make sure its not one of ours we have permission to be there....I will be pianting all of ours bright orange. You can take pot shots at PETA's just make sure you are within your legal rights ; )

 

 

 

 

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@Rory_Paul wrote:

We sell and operate UAVs for precision mapping and scouting and work for farmers. Please before you take a pot shot at a strange craft flying over your neighbours fields make sure its not one of ours we have permission to be there....I will be pianting all of ours bright orange. You can take pot shots at PETA's just make sure you are within your legal rights ; )

 

 

 

 

 

 


I do not remember how far above the earth a farmer owns the air rights in Iowa..  But a farmer has three property rights, air rights, surface rights and mineral rights.   I doubt anyone is going to shoot down a small ag drone, since they would most likely be flying over crop land, not over hills, timber, and pasture where deer and antelope roam.
Plus, we might be shooting down the DNR drones, the FSA drones, the country Sheriffs drones, the DEA drones, the EPA drones, the FBI drones, the IRS drones, the County Engineer drones, the Board of Supervisor drones, . . . . I mean . . . maybe we all should join to gether and build a drone factory and sell them to these nimrods.   LMAO!   John 
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Re: PETA eyes drones to watch hunters, farmers

Hate to be the person to let ya all know this but you already being watched. You guys are funny to think you still have any privacy at all. In fact you should volunteer to put camera's in all your animal opperations just in case you do have someone who treats your critters with disresect. So funny.

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Re: PETA eyes drones to watch hunters, farmers

We are well beyond a million animals raised here on contract. There has been a service representative of their owner on this place at least once every week snce Day One. Animal welfare is documented and we have been trained on their standards. There is no way we could abuse or neglect their animals, without it being known.

Clearly, we are not agraid of oversight.

I do think thst there is a decided difference between our relationship with our integrator, in terms of our ontract, in which we accept some loss of privacy in the production facilities, and someone with no legal right to invade our privacy, trespassing on or over our property. Private persons are not supposed to be subject to the scrutiny celebrities deal with daily.

Time to get with some skeet shooting girls I know, and learn thecropes, I guess. As for painting them bright colors...thanks for making them easy to spot!
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Re: PETA eyes drones to watch hunters, farmers

First, we all have the right to purchase assault weapons with 50 round clips to protect our constitiutional rights. Next we will be fighting for the right to own surface to air missiles and antiaircraft weapons. it's our right as american citizens!

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Questions for Jim or Rory Paul

I have read that the military drones are controlled by satellite links, with operators half a world away in control. What are the actual operating parameters of typical ( let's construe that to mean non-military) UAS?

Would there be an observable ground crew? What is the radius from base? How are they fueled/ what is their range?
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