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The window is open for an indeterminate period as Dow settles a price fixing case for $835 million rather than take a chance with the case at the SCOTUS sans Scalia.
Of course it would have to work its way there which would likely take a few years.
The case for price fixing is sitting in plain sight, just not sure if there's anybody left in "agriculture" with enough stones to bring it. Most have been thoroughly neoliberalized- getting ripped off doesn't matter as long as your neighbor is getting ripped off too- the game is about outlasting him.
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Kay - I think your on to something - you know when canabus will be legalized is when it has a GMO trait - then it will be OK ---
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@hardnox wrote:
I'm not able to find good stats on the percentage used in power plants for SO4 mitigation but it appears to be less than 5%. Of that, presumably much ends up going onto crops as ammonium sulfate,
Not sure of the numbers Nox but I think more NH3 is used in scrubbers than is used in US corn production.
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Re: Time for a notrogen price fixing class action
Well nitrogen is over a third less than it was in the hay day of corn prices. I paid over 60¢/unit a few years ago, this spring i paid 40¢, I`m probably getting ripped off because it`ll go lower...won`t be the first time. But I think we`ll get slightly raped this spring on N prices, but it`ll drop big time next year. I don`t know the critiria for a class action suit, but I think it`d be a uphill climb.
Speaking of lawsuits, that Syngenta suit, I never signed on and the other day some ambulance chasers still hadn`t given up on me and sent me a bait letter. Now I see there`s a lawsuit if you ever sprayed Roundup you can sue because you might get cancer and I think that includes even homeowners that just spray their sidewalk cracks.
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Re: Time for a notrogen price fixing class action
@hardnox wrote:
The window is open for an indeterminate period as Dow settles a price fixing case for $835 million rather than take a chance with the case at the SCOTUS sans Scalia.
Of course it would have to work its way there which would likely take a few years.
The case for price fixing is sitting in plain sight, just not sure if there's anybody left in "agriculture" with enough stones to bring it. Most have been thoroughly neoliberalized- getting ripped off doesn't matter as long as your neighbor is getting ripped off too- the game is about outlasting him.
The trouble with N prices is ag has to compete with industrial uses such as scubbers on coal fired power plants.
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Re: Time for a notrogen price fixing class action
I would probably settle on Roundup use for free medical marijuana for life as my payoff. It appears that a growing body of credible science says cannabis cures cancer.

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Re: Time for a notrogen price fixing class action
why is it "trouble" as you say.......?
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Re: Time for a notrogen price fixing class action
@RJG640v8 wrote:
why is it "trouble" as you say.......?
Part of the reason.

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Re: Time for a notrogen price fixing class action
whewwww!!!
for a second there, I thought we were losing our Capitalist maven....
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Re: Time for a notrogen price fixing class action
Sometimes I read Kay and grind my teeth and sometimes I read Kay and get into that old saw of "Where was this one when I was looking?".
Hoping that that string of very early storms have left all of your roofs on.
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Kay - I think your on to something - you know when canabus will be legalized is when it has a GMO trait - then it will be OK ---
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Re: Time for a notrogen price fixing class action
......and, there are spies in your neighborhood to turn you in for the bounty if you plant the seeds.