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PED-V and contractors

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I'm assuming but don't know for sure what the status is for sludge factory contract operators if the pigs aren't there to place.

 

Assume you get the base but forego any performance incentives?

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Re: PED-V and contractors

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http://feedstuffs.com/story-senators-ask-disaster-assistance-those-affected-pedv-45-109936

 

I suppose those small proeucers includes Smithfield/WongDong?

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Not that you seem genuinely concerned about the economic welfare of the thousands of families like mine, who rely upon contract swine production for their living...but, without any pigs, how can one " perform", well or otherwise?
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Actually have several friends who run contract finisher buildings.

 

When I left the independent hog business under- more or less on my own terms- I had opportunites to do the same and took a pass on it. It has turned out better for those who did primarily because of the reset in nutrient value, good for them. Honestly.

 

If there was to be some form of extreme duress for the hog monopolists, be it from disease or economic circumstances, I do strongly oppose the use of public resources to support them or their contractors. But hey, I also oppose land subsidies and look how far that got, so I wouldn't worry about it in the least.  If some corportions show up with some folks in bib overalls who are "family farmers" it is probably a done deal.

 

 

 

 

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Honored Advisor

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I doubt my integrator, which is Chinese-owned, would get all that much sympathy, especially since two of the three strains assessed so far for DNA arose in China.
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Kay - The anaylisis being  2  out  of  3 came in off  shore  - how  interesting  ? ? 

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Not what I said...the third steain appears to be European. My head scratcher is that, once the first strain showed up and everyone started clamping down even tighter on biosecurity, two affitional strains found their way in.

How three different strains arrive and start to wreak havoc all at the same time is what stymies me. It sounds like a form of agriterrorism to me. It did the first time I heard about the disease, and it sounds even moreso as time goes on.

So far, the onky biosecurity breach we have dealt with was that some dummy up the company ladder, who sent one of his underlings in here. They have a contractual right to come, but the guy bypassed two big red signs and the required entry interview, which they all knew he was supposed to call one of the pisted cell phine numbers, wait for one of us, and complete.

How we are supposed to protect the herd here, given that kind of stupidity, escapes me.
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Can't say the thought of intentional human action being the cause didn't occur to me also.

 

Although while the remant in the livestock industry is untra-paranoid about greenies you'd also have to look at people with the potential for financial gain.

 

Once upon a time, not so long ago, our nation was organized around the principle of opposition to a very powerful enemy that just happened to have a vast biological weapons capability. In that time there was a modest ongoing effort in small corners of the traditional national security establishment to keep tabs on strategic vulnerability of the food supply.

 

That enemy went away and we maybe more or less cleaned up most of their bioweapons capacity. But then there was a biological attack on the nation with anthrax that turned out to have originated in a U.S. Army bioweapons lab. The FBI chased one guy for years and ended up paying him a multi-million $ settlement for defamation of character. Then they landed on another creepy dude who committed suicide and they closed the case. FWIW, the National Academy of Sciences says that the scientific case for that conclusion wasn't made (just another conspiracy among scientists).

 

So anyway, we spent $ billions of DHS pork barrel payola to pass around to states, universities and the USDA because we suddenly had huge, I'm telling you, huge exposure to bio and agro-terrorism.

 

Which all just makes me feel slighted because back in the day when we had a diverse food production system with a multitude of producers- and had a real enemy with very real capabilities- nobody much cared about us (and there wasn't the degree of exposure, because of the aforementioned facts). But when you've thrown a few tens of $billions around to combat a problem that barely exists, it now officially exists.

 

So we have, as I said, vast pork barrel spending, agro-terrorism laws, ag gag laws and a whole host of abominations which are necessary becasue as we all know, we're much more efficient now and all reaping the benefits.

 

Anyway, that's why I haven't signed up for any Speak Up for Agriculture contests lately.

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You don't know the half of it. EPA and some state environmental/ permitting agencies have -sometimes despite clear lack of legal authority to do so - released databases of animal producerso whoever has a computer. I have complained about this for well over a decade, and yet, it is still being done.

Consider that every nut job in the world has been handed a map to your family farm's gate. It doesn't matter a tinker's **bleep** whose pufs, chickens etc., that you raise. It is still your private property. It is still your family that is being placed at risk.

Fix that.
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Back when there were a lot more producers it would have been harder to harass them.

 

Kinda goes with the territory, dontcha think?

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