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New member, question about tractors for cattle farming....

Hello everyone, I'm new to the board, and new to the Cattle business.  I've got about 90 acres of pasture, and I'm trying to decide on what tractor to buy for my operation.  I will NOT be cutting my own hay, so I won't have to purchase baling equipment, but I will be moving round bales, bushhogging, and using it for general needs. 

 

I've been trying to decide between a new Kubota or a slightly used John Deere, and I'm thinking a new Kubota will be my choice for a warranty and just so that I know what I've got.  My question is, can I get away with buying a 50 hp tractor if I'm not planning on getting in the hay business?

 

Any input would be much appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

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onebigbyrd
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Re: New member, question about tractors for cattle farming....

50 hp would be great especially with a loader and hay fork

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acfarmer
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Re: New member, question about tractors for cattle farming....

Kubotas are good tractors. A couple friends have one and they seem to like them. i would suggest getting fwa and make sure you have some ballast on the rear wheels. Especially if whoever bales you hay has a big round baler.Is the kubota alot cheaper than the John Deere.

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Re: New member, question about tractors for cattle farming....

The Kubota is about 19,000 new (50hp) with shuttle shift, and the John Deere is about 23,000 new (55hp) without the shuttle shift.    The used John Deere is about the same price as the new Kubota.

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Jim Meade / Iowa City
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Re: New member, question about tractors for cattle farming....

50 hp is plenty.  You didn't say if the prices included the loader and hay handling equipment, such as a grapple or spear. It might be useful to compare them as equipped for the job at hand.  You might even include the mower if you know you'll get one.

 

You want a stable tractor with powerful hydraulics.  Either should be OK.  Front wheel assist would be helpful in many cases unless you need extreme short turning.  The shuttle gear is very handy when backing and maneuvering.

 

For tractors of this size, I assume you are looking at category 2 three-point-lift.  Most 3 points on tractors like this can be converted to cat 1 if you need to.  You'll have an internal lift cylinder.

 

Look at the hydraulics.  You may want at least one and possibly two external hydraulic valves in addition to the ones used to operate the loader.   That way, you can have the loader on and functioning and still operate something without unhooking the loader to use it's hydraulic connections.  The loader may get hydraulics directly from the pump or may connect to the external valves.  The loader boom needs cylinders as does the bucket to tilt and some have a third set to operate a grapple or other accessory.   You can see how it is possible to run out of hydraulics.  Look at the controls - do you have one or two and are you happy with that?  Some use a joy stick that works front-back for the boom and sideways for the bucket, for example.

 

For the mower, you'll have either 540 or 1000 rpm power take off.  At 50 hp, 540 is enough but keep in mind that as you get equipment that takes more horsepower you might prefer a 1000 rpm system because it can handle more torque..  In any event, your tractor and equipment have to be the same.  Some tractors have dual PTO systems or ways to change from one to the other, but it's something to check out.

 

As you likely know, you can buy all manner of used tractors with loaders, PTO and a three-point-hitch for well under $10,000.

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petasucks
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Re: New member, question about tractors for cattle farming....

I thought tractors on cattle farms had to be blue?

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onebigbyrd
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Re: New member, question about tractors for cattle farming....

mine is blue

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Re: New member, question about tractors for cattle farming....

A JD without shuttle shift is way less money than that.

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awy2
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Re: New member, question about tractors for cattle farming....

In my opinion, this decision has many factors to consider.  Dealer support is a very important factor.  Parts availability, service techs that know something, and good warranty coverage are all very important.  I would also get a shuttle shift transmission even though it is more expensive.  One of the previous posts mentioned multiple hydraulic scv's; in my opinion, you can't have too many.  For our cattle tractors, we run Fords.  We have a NH 6610S with a 7210 ford loader and a NH TS100 with a 7210 ford loader.  The TS 100 has enough power to do most anything, great fuel economy, and hydraulics.  I don't know if you are dead set on a Kubota or a Deere, but if not, you might give the Blue's a good look.

 

Adam   

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