Hobbyfarmer
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02-09-2015
09:24 AM
7 letter word worse than a four letter word?
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lln50nwin
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02-09-2015
09:36 AM
Re: 7 letter word worse than a four letter word?
What do you expect, its Fox!
Hobbyfarmer
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02-09-2015
10:00 AM
Re: 7 letter word worse than a four letter word?
There is more truth in this piece than you'll find on ... oh say NBC ..
Their head anchor just flat out makes things up...
lln50nwin
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02-09-2015
10:09 AM
Re: 7 letter word worse than a four letter word?
Really?? Not worth replying. Clowns!
BA Deere
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02-09-2015
10:48 AM
Re: 7 letter word worse than a four letter word?
I don't have a dog in the fight, but I'm not threatened by organics. Organic farmers wore out shoe leather building a market, it must be good or they won't have a customer base...that is the epitome of capitalism. To me if I see a organic field 25bu beans 100bu corn and foxtail....great we got too much supply now. If it was 250bu corn and 75 bu bean GMO crops, that is weighing on the supply.....Go Organics! or what am I missing?
JCCWIS
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02-10-2015
05:36 AM
Re: 7 letter word worse than a four letter word?
Agree BA......If you canmake organic work its a good thing. Fills a need and keeps bushels off the conventional market. Both sides gain !!!!
John

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02-10-2015
05:52 AM
Re: 7 letter word worse than a four letter word?
Good post BA -
Jameshh1964
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02-16-2015
12:32 AM
Re: 7 letter word worse than a four letter word?
Well now, how did I miss this post!
From a guy who buys and sells and contracts for Organic grains and dry beans for a living, I'll put in my two bits.
There is a difference between Organic (legally meaningless) and Certified Organic ( lots of legal meaning backed up by inspections of your records, purchases, sales, and/or farming practices). Does something become healthy because you call it Certified organic? No. Organic sugar is just as void of vitamins as regular sugar for instance. What it does mean is that the chickens were raised differently without antibiotics and with organic feed and that the noodles are made with wheat that was certified organic (no synthetic fertilizer or synthetic sprays). I'm not sure Campbell soup fits this generality; but many organic companies ( like Any's Kitchen) really care about the health attributes of their products. There are way more vegetables in their soup than Campbell soup. It would be healthier even if they used conventional ingredients. I think this is likely why there is an association with health regarding organics with many people. But legalistically, it has only to do with how a raw ingredient is produced. There may also be a ban on such things as MSG, artificial coloring a etc, but I'm not privy to the rules on processed products. And by the way, our organic red bean growers yield just as much as their conventional counterparts. They even gripe if yields don't approach a ton and a half/acre. Hard red spring yields were as high as 123 bu/acre this year. I am seeing less and less of a yield difference as the years go by. Maybe we just have all the good growers, but I doubt it.
From a guy who buys and sells and contracts for Organic grains and dry beans for a living, I'll put in my two bits.
There is a difference between Organic (legally meaningless) and Certified Organic ( lots of legal meaning backed up by inspections of your records, purchases, sales, and/or farming practices). Does something become healthy because you call it Certified organic? No. Organic sugar is just as void of vitamins as regular sugar for instance. What it does mean is that the chickens were raised differently without antibiotics and with organic feed and that the noodles are made with wheat that was certified organic (no synthetic fertilizer or synthetic sprays). I'm not sure Campbell soup fits this generality; but many organic companies ( like Any's Kitchen) really care about the health attributes of their products. There are way more vegetables in their soup than Campbell soup. It would be healthier even if they used conventional ingredients. I think this is likely why there is an association with health regarding organics with many people. But legalistically, it has only to do with how a raw ingredient is produced. There may also be a ban on such things as MSG, artificial coloring a etc, but I'm not privy to the rules on processed products. And by the way, our organic red bean growers yield just as much as their conventional counterparts. They even gripe if yields don't approach a ton and a half/acre. Hard red spring yields were as high as 123 bu/acre this year. I am seeing less and less of a yield difference as the years go by. Maybe we just have all the good growers, but I doubt it.
Jameshh1964
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02-16-2015
12:34 AM
Re: 7 letter word worse than a four letter word?
I meant to say "Amy's Organics"
Canuck_2
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02-16-2015
02:48 AM
Re: 7 letter word worse than a four letter word?
I missed it too and there was an article in a local farm paper last week claiming 'organic' growers were making an extra $700-1360 profit per acre.
Notice that was extra profit just for growing weeds in their lower producing crops but they can get $300 for a tonne of corn.
Yes I think it is a scam and I think the claim of all that extra profit is a scam too.