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rickgthf
Senior Advisor

Anybody following this article:

https://www.agriculture.com/news/business/dicamba-use-for-2020-in-question-d 

How many acres of Xtend beans are out there?  It seems like it's going to be tough to spray this year's crop without opening a grower up to legal claims.

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timetippingpt
Honored Advisor

Re: Anybody following this: https://www.agriculture.com/news/business/dicamba-use-for-2020-in-questi

Let's state the obvious, the technology does not work. Dicamba still drifts and still kills off site plants, etc.....

Shame the courts have to intervene.

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sdholloway56
Senior Advisor

Re: Anybody following this: https://www.agriculture.com/news/business/dicamba-use-for-2020-in-questi

Shame they were able to push it through the regulatory process.

sw363535
Honored Advisor

Re: Anybody following this: https://www.agriculture.com/news/business/dicamba-use-for-2020-in-questi

It’s a difficult call.  You can find areas of the country where anything can drift between locations. (Even bricks).  We move sand on a regular basis.  

Imo — it is not a call that should be made in a government agency.  The dicamba / 24d. Drift issue has existed for decades in the fringe between cotton south and grain sorghum and corn north ( not to leave out sunflowers).   I think it was handled very well by producers dealing with risk of damage to each other..  Liability has been addressed for decades between neighbors and insurance companies.  In sw area we are very careful about what lies down wind where damage can go for a couple of miles.  

What usda and epa did was give a reduction in responsibility for what was at best a less driftable substance — but still volatile.  Advertising being what it is even on sfmarketing—the claims soon exaggerated to “safe” so go for it. (It’s good cause you paid triple for it—another form of supporting the claim of safe) 

time said it much simpler— it is an embarrassment that the courts have to point out how poorly our government agencies are at making these judgements.  Large corporations use our regulatory agencies at will and make the most of the fact that they can’t say no to the opportunity to regulate even if their actions give one company advantage in irresponsible ways. 

sw363535
Honored Advisor

Re: Anybody following this: https://www.agriculture.com/news/business/dicamba-use-for-2020-in-questi

The greed that ensues when government grants corporations monopoly positions for the scam of very limited technology boost,( in this case possibly a phantom technology) requiring perfect conditions to realize is possibly going to cost us a relatively safe herbicide that works well when managed well.  These agencies supply no service to agriculture in this case.  

Washington is a mine field of things that need investigating, but I for one would like to see the patent process used by seed and chemical companies To maintain monopoly status endlessly challenged. 

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BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Anybody following this: https://www.agriculture.com/news/business/dicamba-use-for-2020-in-questi

Everybody better get their Flexstar needs locked up, possible shortage?    #flexstarnewthetoiletpaper

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Hobbyfarmer
Honored Advisor

Re: Anybody following this: https://www.agriculture.com/news/business/dicamba-use-for-2020-in-questi

As of 5:15pm June 5th it was still legal to buy, sell, use extenamax herbicide.

 

The federal epa label/registration has not been "pulled" .

The large "wholesaler" of farm chemicals at Atlantic, Iowa had one of their

biggest days ever of selling it  yesterday. 

Until the registration is revoked it is still business as usual.

Too much product in the pipeline. Not gonna be Landfilled.

 

I personally think it is a terrible product.

 

Problem at hand is the timing of

this thing.

 

Two years

 

Too late,

 

or one month too soon.

 

 

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unlgrad
Senior Contributor

Re: Anybody following this: https://www.agriculture.com/news/business/dicamba-use-for-2020-in-questi

Nebraska Dept of Ag sent out a bulletin and it is still legal in Nebraska to spray any one of the three on beans.

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sw363535
Honored Advisor

Re: Anybody following this: https://www.agriculture.com/news/business/dicamba-use-for-2020-in-questi

Kansas also gives the ninth traveling judge “the finger”. Quote from a Ks source. Waiting for the wind to go down  

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sw363535
Honored Advisor

Re: Anybody following this: https://www.agriculture.com/news/business/dicamba-use-for-2020-in-questi

While rick spews the nonsense of published opinion unproven science in another title.  Let’s remind ourselves that dicamba is a chemistry of nearly 50 years ago.  

The progressive environmental hokey fest in federal agencies has blocked any new development of effective herbicides for several years. (Other than blending). While we are seeing the progress of genetic modification supported.   Does real science really get a chance in the backdrop of false claims in published fake science?  

Example. How many lives were lost to covid-19 due to the false studies published on the malaria drug?  Those who spew false data should be held accountable in more ways than just a retraction.   Fake science and politics opportunism  is an addiction that needs to be addressed.  Or maybe it’s just lack of education and pure laziness on the part of media.