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BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Beginning of decades long mega drought?

Todd Gleason (WILL radio) talked about this recent USDA video about evidence of drought the west is experiencing could last for decades.   The repercussions to California agriculture, cattle culling in western US have a long tail effects on the food supply.  Wells going dry, reports of towns buying water and having it trucked in and towns that have sold water, are reconsidering as they may be short themselves.

Yes, it`s possible areas in drought this year will flood next year.   However, those who study tree rings say, history shows occasionally droughts do last for decades.  As if marketing isn`t challenging enough.  A little something extra to keep an eye on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP9Z7n-E05E   

 

https://will.illinois.edu/agriculture

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wrightcattle
Veteran Advisor

The usefull

Life of sw Wells cased with the old arbuckle coffee cans is definitely waning. 

Takes a lot of dough to develop water bout 99.9% of folks for one reason or the next dont spend it. 

 

 

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k-289
Senior Advisor

Re: The usefull

Makes  one  ask  about  that  Real Estate  market  in  those  regions ,  when  the  faucet   &  showers  fail  to   respond  -  -  -

Maybe  a  pull  type  water  trailer  toad,  for  the  RV  winter  resorting , isn't  to  far  fetched  -  -  - 

The  south  bound  Pipelines  from  Canada  will  have  contents  way  more  valuable  than  tar  sands  -  -  -

Buffalo  Commons  begins  the  unfortunate  reality  of  population  strains  of  the  arid  corridor  of  I-25  westward   -  -  -    

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sdholloway56
Senior Advisor

Re: The usefull

Or worse.

Thinking about the biblical rains that ended the decade long Big Dry in Australia.

I fear we’re entering Mother Nature’s funhouse.

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wrightcattle
Veteran Advisor

Re: Beginning of decades long mega drought?

Good Post BA. 

Mega droughts creep in slowly... Over time and could easy last a 20 year spell. 

Maybe the northern hemisphere has a mega drought now started. 

115 to 120 degree temps in Canada... Melted off artic... Melted Siberia...the afore has already Signaled the drought.

I know there's amazingly Dry in Dakota Now.  Got a good strip of rain is total dust within  2 days.  Jeez.  LoL. 

It's gonna be interesting..  

Also upside kinda is a mega volcano could bring back an ice age too. 

Whew. 

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rickgthf
Senior Advisor

Re: Don't look now but, ....

Atmospheric CO2 concentration, @410 ppm hasn't been anywhere near this high in 25 million years,

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wrightcattle
Veteran Advisor

Re: Don't look now but, ....

Interesting fact on the co2 level from 25million yrs ago. 

Seems like it got warmer then too. 

The book Black Elk Speaks talks about warm and wetter way back... The dinasaurs were walking around..  Indians said those were just other animals then.

And it was warm clear to the North Pole too. 

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erikjohnson61y
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Don't exaggerate...

Rick - Atmospheric CO2 was around 400 ppm during the Pliocene, some 5 1/2 to 2 1/2 million years ago. 

I of course agree that CO2 is higher than ever in human history, and is changing more rapidly than ever on a percentage basis per year. However, given that it HAS been this high (and much higher) in the past, during periods when life was abundant on this planet, it leads me to be very skeptical that it is all gloom and doom if levels continue to rise. 

All life (that we know of) on this planet is carbon-based. Untold quadrillions of tons of carbon have been more or less permanently sequestered in limestone over the last 400 million years. Crustaceans, if anything, are the organisms that are gradually depriving this planet of the basis of life.  Pumping out a little hydrocarbon for 200 years until we run out is unlikely to make much difference in the grand scheme of things, but puts a little more plant food in the atmosphere while we develop alternate energy sources.  The alternative is a big reduction in the planet's human population, given that the planet cannot sustain 7 billion people without hydrocarbons at this point. More carbon in the biosphere is a good thing, IMO. (let the hate mail begin...)

wrightcattle
Veteran Advisor

Re: Don't exaggerate...

Seems like co2 is not a pollutant.  As compared to say sulfur dioxide... Nitrous oxide and mercury for examples. 

It could be that more co2 is actually a benefit 

But government tends to mislead things. 

BA Deere
Honored Advisor

Re: Don't look now but, ....

It`s amazing how mega droughts which occur every few hundred years (millions of years before there were political parties)  eventually become political ...."had those Anasazi Indians only driven electric cars, perhaps they wouldn`t have died off".  No, mega droughts occurred centuries before the Koch brothers and JR Ewing. 

In the video Chief Meteorologist Mark Brusberg says the quote "floods kill people, but droughts kill civilizations"   if what we see out west continues for decade.  That might not in of itself kill civilization, but would cause a eastward migration to where the water is.

I`ll re link the video, as it`s some important stuff on there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP9Z7n-E05E 

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