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sdholloway56
Senior Advisor

Re: Bloomberg can teach you how to farm.

Universal health care would be the #1 economic policy  for American Carnage Land. Not just for the the direct benefits, but for jobs.

But except for some bed pan changers and janitors, those require an educational investment.

erikjohnson61y
Veteran Advisor

Re: And what's that got to do with the price of tea in China?

Well, the natural follow-up question would be what his agricultural policy would be? I personally have NO IDEA what he would do with ag policy if he were to be elected. 

k-289
Senior Advisor

Re: Bloomberg can teach you how to farm.

1 - Sell  your  cake   &   use  the  proceeds  to  buy  health  care,  UNLESS  your  spouse  at  work  has  a  group  policy  -  -  -

2 - Stop  ALL  Medicare ,  and  just  refund  to you,  the  withholding  Medicare $$$$  from  over  the  past  years  - decades -  -  -

      

k-289
Senior Advisor

Re: And what's that got to do with the price of tea in China?

M  -  more

F - free

P - pe$o'$  ,   then  call  Mara-La Go  for  genius,  planting  instructions  -  maybe  ?      

sdholloway56
Senior Advisor

Re: And what's that got to do with the price of tea in China?

At the moment I'm not arguing on behalf of Bloomberg, just making light of the faux outrage game.

I'd tend to say that farmers should stick with Trump and take what comes. While Phase 1 and other trade stuff may turn out to be a mirage, the Stormy payments have more than compensated for the trade losses, at least in terms of NFI.

I assume he'll continue to take care of "his farmers."

As to what that might mean should the majority ever retake power, I can't say.

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freedom1493
Veteran Advisor

Re: Bloomberg can teach you how to farm.

"Faux outrage aside, operating farm families are down to less than 1% of the workforce anyway, so largely immaterial."

Faux arrogance and dismissiveness aside, if only large corporate farms and large corporations count as things of value, you might as well just all throw your hats onto the ground and hope that Sanders, Bloomberg, and Clinton (yeah, she is frothing to get back into that race even if it is just as the VP) can lead y'all into mindless corporate subservience as an obedient welfare minion.  (BTW, college is nothing but a corporate scam nowadays -- ask any YT millionaire if they went to college.)

OR you can do what everyone has had to do when faced with technological advances:  Find that new niche that pays well.  

Transition some of your acres into other productive cash crops -- anything other than those 2-customers-only crops you're currently growing.  And if you don't believe your land can be repurposed for anything but corn and soy, talk to any Amish farmer for land regeneration ideas.  Use some of that money you're getting to build a new future.

Find something other than soy or corn that fits your climate, soil, etc.  You are in the midst of a "the customer wants to skip the middleman and pick directly from the Earth" revolution.  So  if you think you would have a problem with a lack of workers, buy some more insurance and slap up a "U-Pick" sign - even for green beans.

"Build it and they will come."

sdholloway56
Senior Advisor

Re: Bloomberg can teach you how to farm.

Other than sometimes getting stubborn about policy arguments I probably shouldn't care- that, and just getting tired of stupid, false and sometimes borderline evil assertions.

But "agriculture" as defined here- the broad production of government supported industrial feedstock crops- is now logically about as joined to the Socialism for the Wealthy and Well To Do Party as any sector. Although it isn't a large part of the electorate any more- something on the order of 1%, and probably less than a tenth of that with any commercial future, at least in conventional agriculture.

As far as a Dem farm platform ought to look like, I don't know, other than it doesn't do rural America any good to do agriculture any overt harm, even if it is the major part of the economy only in the very most rural places.

Any attempts to spur discussion here before either of the most recent Farm Bills was met with total disinterest except for occasional hostility.

 

sw363535
Honored Advisor

Re: Bloomberg can teach you how to farm.

SD 

two things are your roadblock........ 1  At this point there is nothing that you or I can suggest that saves the democratic meltdown.  They can't find a candidate that can span the chasm between financial responsibility and pure socialism.  And when it is laced with the hate of the college professor and congressional representation of jet setters, radical immigrants, and the elected "Joker" (all jerimandered into existence).  We had 4 years to fix this problem and this party can't look itself in the mirror yet today.  Words just don't come close to how bad the lack of leadership is--- way too "smart" to form a farm platform.

And 2.... You still feel that no mater what the fix for agriculture is coming from government leadership.  Fat chance.

Your definition......not mine......."the broad production of government supported industrial feedstock crops-"  there is your clue.  When did government do anything but set standards and facilitate private agriculture.  Your definition is laced with fanaticism.   "industrial" used as a derogatory term at best like "big corn".  "supported" like paying the way for it to exist as a college dependent... not true ag existed long before congress could support a committee on the subject.  "Feedstock Crops"-- insinuating that livestock may become the new democratic voter base.  ---- Agriculture is and always has been, outside the democratic (ever shrinking) minority, a demand based activity determined at the grocery register.  If no one served meat, or fried eggs, or bought salad dressing we would be producing something different, in different amounts in different ways.

When elitists mouth off in condecending manner, we get a glimpse of the irrational of our "spoiled brat" population that think they need to tell masses of people what is wrong with them.  When pride goes so far as to not have a feel of "being out of touch".   That is where we are when helping solve a problem has no meaning outside of writing our congressman.  Bloomberg will get far better reception if he runs a planter for me this summer and sees how I program the the combine to miss the occasional gas pipe next fall.  

And between him and me there is an associated Press writer that has no credibility, doing his best to dig the chasm wider with every stroke of the pen...... That is another big problem for the democratic party..... their messengers have lost all power and credibility... ............ and they will never get over the fact that we have seen that the voters can make a decision that is contrary to media message.  Which relates to agriculture this way,  A farmers son or daughter can become president if the voters choose.......   And If the dems dont reevaluate their message it soon becomes "only elites can become president"(because the voters are too dumb to understand the Electoral College)..... no more Eisenhower, Truman's or Lincoln's.  Only Californians and New Yorkers (or their chosen ones).

This is headed down a bad road.

 

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sdholloway56
Senior Advisor

Re: Bloomberg can teach you how to farm.

Best bet at this juncture is that a Dem will win in Nov. There's never been an incumbent with this consistently low approval in modern times. Although that low approval is absolutely rock solid- 5th Ave shootings and all.

As far as Socialism for the Well Off goes, well, aren't that many people who are well off and rather remarkably, many of them vote D anyway.

All bets off as to whether there would be a peaceful transition under those circumstances.

Hobbyfarmer
Honored Advisor

Re: Bloomberg can teach you how to farm.

Lets see:  liberals driving cars into conservatives, assaulting conservatives and spittimg on the flag. Yea as usual you are making accusations when in reality the very opposite is happening.

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