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highyields
Senior Contributor

Cash Market Action

This is nuts I have lost over $2 a bushel in the local cash bean market within this week.  According to everything that we have been told from good ol' USDA there was no grain on the farm this year compared to last year,  NOW the market is crashing on the sales that farmers are making?!?!?!?!?   Now I realize that a positive basis won't last forever, but I have no idea why anyone even listens to the USDA reports anymore.  anyone want to guess what is going to be on the August Report?  I'm going to take a stab at it.  We've found bushel and bushels or grain.  I imagine that they will raise the corn yield to 155 or over, since this 1/4 inch of rain has made this crop.     Probably raise the acres too.    Why not.   more to follow

 

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jennys_mn
Veteran Advisor

Re: Cash Market Action

Processors have shut the doors for maintenance they say, or now have enough to make it to the new crop.  Funny how every processor goes down at once.

 

Jen

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Palouser
Senior Advisor

Count your cards

I'm mostly with Giolucas on this one. Why sweat the near term?

 

I thnk there has been an expectation that physical supplies could get tight by the end of the season. I'm sure many big end users put in place strategies to deal with that possibility - like shutting down for mainteainence, etc. Why not?

 

On the other hand, if a product is profitable then processors and users won't back off unless it is near impossible to get supplies - and running in the red for awhile is an old tradition to keep workers and buyers long term. So demand could only be tempered a bit, but with current falling prices why not ramp up?

 

Basis has been telling a story but that doesn't mean psychology has no impact as some bet on lower prices later on. In any case physical product will be bought - and sold. Some will certainly throw in the towel.

 

If old crop supplies are likely to be tight then there is still some theater to watch before the story is told.

 

Count your cards. Then place your bets.

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highyields
Senior Contributor

Re: Cash Market Action

You telling me that YOUR processors have shut down up north as well????????  Huh,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,think they can squeeze out enough beans until new crop??    I have two processors within 40 miles of me,,,one has shut down, the other one has had a hay day with the basis since.   

Look for another one of my post...

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WCWISC
Veteran Contributor

Re: Cash Market Action

A few buyers in my area went from +70 on Monday to +0 since. Another one added .65 today, putting them at +140. That tells me somebody still wants beans. I have a few loads left to sell. Gonna hang on.

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c-x-1
Veteran Advisor

Re: Cash Market Action

Aug meal down the $20 limit again tonight. Aren't there 12 weeks or so before new beans? I suppose "they" could've crushed enough meal to cover Oct, but seems like old soy story may not be over just yet. 

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pritchh
Senior Contributor

Re: Cash Market Action

I think if you review history, there are NO years where a tight rop waited until the end if the mkting yr to ration, peak. Endusers have acted by now.   Palousr says why nott sit,,  becaue there is a new crop about to be harvested. Old crop was scarce priced. In Sept old crop beans are teh same as new crop.

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SouthWestOhio
Senior Contributor

Re: Cash Market Action

Our corn basis fell .80 today. This bull is catching.
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farmboy47
Contributor

Re: Cash Market Action

TO GO FROM 7.10 AND 16.00 TO THE CURRENT LEVELS  IS INSANE  ...  BY THE PROCESSORS DOING THIS THEY HAVENT CREATED MORE GRAIN  AVAILABLE TO THE MARKET PLACE  AND THIS DROP SHOULD MAKE BUYING AND BRINGING THE FOREIGN GRAIN MUCH TOO EXPENSIVE... SO WHAT HAVE WE GOT  LOW STOCKS  AND A CROP  THAT HERE IN CENTRAL  IOWA SO FAR THAT DOSENT HOLD EVEN A CANDLE TO LAST YEARS IOWA CROP  .... WE PLANTED LATER  IT HASNT RAINED IN A MONTH  SOME TASSELLS AND SILK  BUT NOT ENOUGH TO MAKE AN EAR  SWEET CORN WAS LOUSY  SOYBEANS  HAVE 3 NODES  I HAVE SOME CROP LEFT  AND WAS TAKING THE PRICES BID  BUT NOT INTERESTED IN SELLING AT THESE PRICES  I CAN KEEP IT TILL NEXT YEAR  60+POUND CORN MIGHT JUST BLEND IT IN WITH NEW  IF WE GET ANY OR WOULD BE GREAT FEEDING CORN  ....RUMOR HAS IT THAT  THIS WAS PLANNED  WITH THE PROCESSOR AT EDDYVILLE  LEADING THE PACK   I HOPE THEY BOUGHT A LOT OF CORN  CAUSE  THEY WILL NEED IT TILL NEW CROP COMES IN    AND THE SOYBEAN FELLOWA CAN DO THE SAME  I WONT SELL BEANS AT 12.00 AND LET THEM SELL 500 DOLLAR BEAN MEAL AND GET RICH ON ME  ....I HAD BEANS BACK IN THE EMBARGO DAYS  THEY DROPPED TO A NEW CROP  AND  WHEN THEY COULDNT BUY ANY  THEY HAD TO BID  AND THEY WILL AGAIN 

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